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Offline Hortlund

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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2002, 03:02:14 PM »
Hey Nashwan, guess what I learned today.

One suicide bomber (from this spring I think it was) was Israeli arab. And right now there are 3 Israeli arabs in custody who were planning suicide attacks.
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Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2002, 03:20:02 PM »
I think, though I'm not sure, that the Israeli Arab suicide bomber was an Israeli through naturalization, one of his parents maaried an Israeli Arab. (I thought I mentioned that in the last thread)

Are you sure there are 3 in custody accused of planning suicide attacks? I know there are a few accused of various levels of complicity, such as a taxi driver who knowingly accepted a suicide bomber as a passenger.

However, it's not just Israeli Arabs who have aided the Palestinian terrorists. An Israeli Christian, an immigrant from Russia, is also awaiting trial for helping plan suicide bombings, and two members of the IDF, who are also settlers, are in custody awaiting trial for selling arms and ammunition to Palestinian terrorists.
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Offline sidthekid

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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2002, 07:09:07 PM »
Guys your to focused on putting balme instead of trying to fix what is wrong. Now to poster who said move palastines to a arab country. Its a thought BUT. Jordan is mostly Palastinians but if King Abdallah would let refugees in, It wouuld just esculate war to jordan as radicals would attack Isreal from Jordan. And still would leave Isreal surround by nations that still want to wipe out Isrealis.


 I get over 2000 e-mails a day on this plan,when it was published then posted on CNN and Aol. 10% were like some of you saying kill all Jews or JKill all arabs.


  This plan in full version list cost and plans for movement. But it is 23 pages long. I posted a brief version to get Ideas. There could be ! person that has turn around point to make Isrealis accept plan. Arab league Likes Idea, And Australia said interesting Idea.

 My biggest problem is making it to hard for Isrealis to ignore plan.
 I didn't come up with making  holy land a free zone like Vactican on my own. And I really think Any idea to enhance plan should be looked at.






 NOW FOR TOSE THAT THINK THIS IS A TROLL, You better look in mirror if you think this is a troll. You must be writting to many trolling post yourself. when you condemn someone with out investigating only makes you ASS_U_Me...to much....
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« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2002, 09:04:03 PM »
There's always the Arab peace plane:

1) kill all Israelis, give their land to 'Palestine'

2) Peace reigns, because Arabs never fight among themselves.     :rolleyes:

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Offline Holden McGroin

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« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2002, 09:14:11 PM »
Hey Sid,

All you have to do to guarantee the sucess of your plan is to figure out how to amend the Torah and / or the Koran. (Maybe the Bible too)

Both sides believe that the Holy Land is thiers.  This is why the Dome of the Rock is built upon the (I think) remains of the Temple of David, of which the western wall, or wailing wall is a part.

The dirt in Israel / Palestine is sacred to both faiths, to the point where logic and reason break down.  Exchanging sacred ground for land in any other location is against the religous beliefs of both parties.  

Solving a fundamental difference of faith with logic is impossible, as logic and faith are two thought patterns that exclude each other. A 'leap of faith' is by definition illogical, without reason.

You'd have more success sweeping back the tide.  At least you would be making progress twice a day.
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« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2002, 10:51:12 PM »
Don't forget about Canada....they call all that space up there too!

And they can keep em all in line with those hockey sticks!!  :eek:

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2002, 11:30:18 PM »
GAH , Why do i keep AGREEING with Hortland?.....
 
oh , because hes right? :)



    The Only way your going to get Israelies/Palistinians to stop fighting = killing every single one of them , and it aint gonna happen.
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« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2002, 11:36:04 PM »
Maybe provide a reason to live instead of a reason to die?

Nah, nevermind. It wouldn't work.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2002, 12:30:30 AM »
Yes agree on holy land that is why we are purposing that entire holy land become a free zone. Which means that anyone and everyone is welcome to visit it at anytime with no passport or any goverment to interfer with visitation. Entire holy land will be vacant except for hotels and Embassies, Protected by UN and Arab league troops. It would be a little like how Vacticain in Rome is Italy has no say on how Vactican is run.

6. All Persons living in Jerusalem will be relocated (with no cost them) just out side free zones. And be giving first choice and living area

7. Jerusalem (AKA free city) to become free city enclosing all Holy sites. Everyone in world welcome and no one will be denied entry to holy land. Pilgrim visa is all that is needed. Holy sites will now belong to entire world. And be a safe harbor for all those who visit. Free City (AKA like the Vatican). To be Patrolled by UN peace keeping force made up of mostly Arab league Countries.

8. If it becomes unsafe for Israelis or others to visit holy land. Then and only then entire holy land would revert back to Israel control back by UN. Troops and Arab league nations.
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 now for as why not canada is because Weather change to a very cold climate could be harmful according to Doctors Isrealis could lose upto 10% to flu and other complacations...
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2002, 01:11:39 AM »
Since we are living in the future now, why cant HT get involved and create a seperate arena so that the Arabs pilots and Israeli pilots can duke it out. Nobody gets hurt and HT gets more customers. Everybody has a great time, hey watduyuknow, a new way of life. And war!

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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2002, 02:03:41 AM »
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Originally posted by sidthekid
Guys your to focused on putting balme instead of trying to fix what is wrong.


That part of the country lives in the past and its memory dictates their futures.  They will never forget. That is their culture.

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And Australia said interesting Idea.


Sorry mate :) No offence but thats our polite way of saying "Get Stuffed!" hehe.



As I understand it, a growing number of Israelis including many members of their elite fighting forces are calling for Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, stating their is no reason to be there and that the Gaza is the money sucker depriving their country of better times.

In the Gaza itself, live a relatively minute number of Israeli hardliners who refuse to re-locate and their actions are supported by the Israeli head of state.

If you want a realistic chance of Peace for Israel and Palistine. Convince the Israeli leadership to abandon Gaza and its hardliner element.  An easy task?  No.

But you have a better chance of pushing that through than getting Australians to accept a Foriegn State within its borders. Unfortunately for your plan, well intentioned as it may be.  Thats the facts. It will never happen.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2002, 02:34:44 AM »
Well, here's an idea for you SidtheKid;

If I was in Israel I would tell the Hamas and whoever bombs us next we will start to destroy Islamic Holy sites.

1.  Where Mohammed was born.
2.  Where Mohammed is buried.
3.  Medina where he started his crusade.
4.  Mecca's Raj
5.  Others

Once they understand a bomb for a bomb, they will be less eager to carry on their unholy war.

Then any Palestinian that wants to leave will be welcomed to settle in Syndey.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2002, 02:45:52 AM »
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Originally posted by SC-Sp00k


Sorry mate :) No offence but thats our polite way of saying "Get Stuffed!" hehe.

 




 Crikey!

 I would've used a short sharper expression mate

..and to think all this over a troll..


 Tronsky
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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2002, 02:51:09 AM »
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Originally posted by sidthekid
Yes agree on holy land that is why we are purposing that entire holy land become a free zone. Which means that anyone and everyone is welcome to visit it at anytime with no passport or any goverment to interfer with visitation. Entire holy land will be vacant except for hotels and Embassies, Protected by UN and Arab league troops. It would be a little like how Vacticain in Rome is Italy has no say on how Vactican is run.

6. All Persons living in Jerusalem will be relocated (with no cost them) just out side free zones. And be giving first choice and living area

7. Jerusalem (AKA free city) to become free city enclosing all Holy sites. Everyone in world welcome and no one will be denied entry to holy land. Pilgrim visa is all that is needed. Holy sites will now belong to entire world. And be a safe harbor for all those who visit. Free City (AKA like the Vatican). To be Patrolled by UN peace keeping force made up of mostly Arab league Countries.

8. If it becomes unsafe for Israelis or others to visit holy land. Then and only then entire holy land would revert back to Israel control back by UN. Troops and Arab league nations.
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 now for as why not canada is because Weather change to a very cold climate could be harmful according to Doctors Isrealis could lose upto 10% to flu and other complacations...


*SLAP* *SLAP* *SLAP*

Stop trolling you moron. Argh, this is so rediculous on so many levels and yet you keep on trying. Mail your toejam to whoever you think may care but leave us alone.
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2002, 03:01:36 AM »
>Jerusalem (AKA free city) to become free city enclosing all Holy
>sites

I think that is so naive to think that... There are only two areas on Earth that are free zones if you dont mind me using the term. That would be the north pole and south pole. Can you imagine a  place where Arabs and Israelis can walk in peace somewhere, anywhere near the middle east?
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