Greenhouse effect?

[Thrawn]

Do you really own an Excursion?  If so why?

[Holden McGroin]

Answer A: Yup, cause my Suburban was in the shop.

Answer 2: No I do not own one, I ride a bicycle, eat tofu and attend PETA meetings.

Your choice which answer you like.

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Actually this is much worse.

So, can you ignorant americans understand this one? Or are you going to deny its existence too?

Thrawn...any reference on the urban legends page?

Link

Ann Coltier told me that these so-called 'global environmental disasters' are lies spread by the liberal media because they want to take away our SUVs.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Thrawn

Yawn?  HA HA hey look!  Sikboy took the "Th" out of Thrwan and replaced it with a "Y".  Making the word yawn!  

I took the "R" out too Einstein.

-Shitboy

[midnight Target]

I say we pass legislation to restrict breathing to every other breathe.

Only you Hortlund could take an environmental disaster and couch it as some kind of ethnic slur... amazing!

Damn those heathen asian types! Why can't they be more like us? Hey wait! They are like us, just behind by 20 years. Looks like we should assist them with the means to clean this watermelon up...

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Only you Hortlund could take an environmental disaster and couch it as some kind of ethnic slur... amazing!

Damn those heathen asian types! Why can't they be more like us? Hey wait! They are like us, just behind by 20 years. Looks like we should assist them with the means to clean this watermelon up...

20 years?

Well I dont know about you Midnight, or your living standards, but here in Sweden we didnt use cow dung to cook our food 20 years ago.

Its more like they are 100 years behind us (but on the other hand we didnt use cow dung back then either...hint, try wood, if for no other reason, it smells better).

What means do you propose to clean this toejam up? The only way to do that is to stop producing those pollutions.

My theory on what should be done:

Step 1
Economic embargo against anyone who fails to comply with stricter environmental laws.

Step 2
Remove sources of pollution in any country failing to meet the demands in step 1.

[miko2d]

Hortlund: 20 years?
Well I dont know about you Midnight, or your living standards, but here in Sweden we didnt use cow dung to cook our food 20 years ago.
 I bet you wasted a lot of time and effort on laying down all that copper wire before switching to wireless phone system. And using steam engines instead of electricity. And you had to use abacus and sliding rule to calculate things rather than cheap computers and existing libraries of designs. And you fertilised your fields with your fecal matter rather than cheap industrially-made fertilisers. And you did not have genetically-modified virus- and pest-resistant crops.

Its more like they are 100 years behind us (but on the other hand we didnt use cow dung back then either...hint, try wood, if for no other reason, it smells better).
 Besides having no wood to burn - and cow dung being mostly grass and burning quite nicely and with less smell than coal - they are where you were 100 years ago, true - but they do not have to spend 100 years achieving the current level.

 Not that I believe that will ever happen - but not for technological reasons.

 miko

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Hortlund


20 years?

...snip...

What means do you propose to clean this toejam up? The only way to do that is to stop producing those pollutions.

My theory on what should be done:

Step 1
Economic embargo against anyone who fails to comply with stricter environmental laws.

Step 2
Remove sources of pollution in any country failing to meet the demands in step 1.

OK 150!

Step 1 and 2 should result in a vast reduction in pollutants as it results in a vast reduction in population. In step 2, when we remove the sources, can we deliver the cow chips to Sweden for safe keeping?

Or we could just speed up the process and nuke em! Nah. Then there's that darn "other" cloud.

I don't know the solution.....but here is a try.

 We use natural gas power plants and hydroelectric power. We have clean burning fossil fuel plants. We have added numerous devices to our cars to clean them up as well. Why don't we share this technology with these folks? Maybe instead of a Peace Corps we could establish an Environmental Corps.  These would be scientists and engineers with the ability to assist these 3rd world Countries in developing cleaner forms of power and heat. Give them incentives for cleaning up their act.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by miko2d

 I bet you wasted a lot of time and effort on laying down all that copper wire before switching to wireless phone system. And using steam engines instead of electricity. And you had to use abacus and sliding rule to calculate things rather than cheap computers and existing libraries of designs. And you fertilised your fields with your fecal matter rather than cheap industrially-made fertilisers. And you did not have genetically-modified virus- and pest-resistant crops.
 

20 years ago? Steam engines? Come on.

We are still using copper wire in 90% of our phone network though. But it works, and it works well.

Fiber optics are coming along nicely, but it takes alot of time and money. In the big cities roughly 50% of the households have access to broadband via fiber optic cables, and about 85% of all citizens regardless of where they live have access to broadband via the telephone lines (yup the old copper ones) via ADSL.

And actually I wish our farmers would use the same fertilizers they used 100 years ago. And I wish they would use the same crops as then too...but thats just me.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by midnight Target


OK 150!

Step 1 and 2 should result in a vast reduction in pollutants as it results in a vast reduction in population. In step 2, when we remove the sources, can we deliver the cow chips to Sweden for safe keeping?

Or we could just speed up the process and nuke em! Nah. Then there's that darn "other" cloud.

I don't know the solution.....but here is a try.

 We use natural gas power plants and hydroelectric power. We have clean burning fossil fuel plants. We have added numerous devices to our cars to clean them up as well. Why don't we share this technology with these folks? Maybe instead of a Peace Corps we could establish an Environmental Corps.  These would be scientists and engineers with the ability to assist these 3rd world Countries in developing cleaner forms of power and heat. Give them incentives for cleaning up their act.

I dont see the connection between reducing pollutions and a reduction in population. (hint: this is where foreign aid comes in)

Hydroelectric power is hardly a state secret Midnight. And (for example) the Chinese have taken their own (very bizarre) way to implement it..you know that project where they will build the mother of all dams.

We are spending oh so much money in foreign aid to various countries every year. How about we start attaching some serious demands to that money.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Sikboy


I took the "R" out too Einstein.

-Shitboy

-Yrawn

[Toad]

Greenhouse effect?

Well, in my experience it generally drives property values down in almost any neighborhood. Especially that bright "swimming pool green". Uck! Every house looks bad in that color!

Some of the "earthtone" greens are not too bad, but you're still better off just staying away from green unless it's as a trim color.

Just my .02.

[miko2d]

Hortlund: 20 years ago? Steam engines? Come on.
 ??? I am obviously talking about the state of your technology 100 years ago - which a reasonably-run third-world country would take about 20 years to achieve.

miko

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Hortlund


I dont see the connection between reducing pollutions and a reduction in population. (hint: this is where foreign aid comes in)

Hydroelectric power is hardly a state secret Midnight. And (for example) the Chinese have taken their own (very bizarre) way to implement it..you know that project where they will build the mother of all dams.

We are spending oh so much money in foreign aid to various countries every year. How about we start attaching some serious demands to that money.

Your punitive measures would probably do more harm than good. You did add foreign aid to your last post, so we probably are closer to agreement on this issue than you think.

Step 1
Economic embargo against anyone who fails to comply with stricter environmental laws.

Step 2
Remove sources of pollution in any country failing to meet the demands in step 1.

Don't you think that providing them with the means to produce clean energy would be better?

I never said hydroelectric power was a State secret (hint: placing 'hint' in parenthesis is semi condecending). You did seem to ignore the remainder of my post again.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Thrawn






-Yrawn

lol