Want your opinion on this.

[Urchin]

As a general rule I don't go out of my way to diddly with people, Creamo.  Not even on the Internet when you can talk without having to face any real consequences.  What I did I did because I was angry.

Some folks take pride in their ability to piss other people off, I just don't happen to be one of them.

[senna]

Urchin, Elfenwolf, I say you guys duel this one out. Really. This is just an idea but this aint work and this aint real life so you guys have some freedoms here beyong what we take for granted in reality. I say you two go duel. Do it do it doit doit.

[Creamo]

Not even on the Internet when you can talk without having to face any real consequences. What I did I did because I was angry.

And what would you do to me in person for pointing out the obvious? Squirt me a load of tears? Swear and have a toejam-fit? Buy me drinks and ask for more advice?

Your simpleton, heated, unstable response here is a sure indication that not only are you an amazinhunk, you can’t control it. BBS or at work.

Tweak man, tweak. I enjoy it.

[Urchin]

Well, you got me pegged there I guess.  You outta do a newspaper column, I'm sure you'd make millions.  

And it is quite obvious you enjoy pissing people off.  My pet theory is that people like you and Elfenwolf do it on the BBS because you are too chickenshit to speak up to whoever is pissing you off in real life.  Course, that is just me.

Kinda like the old saying off "Boss yells at the man, man yells at the wife (or I guess in Elfenwolfs case he just beats her), wife yells at kid, kid yells at the dog.  Everyone needs to feel 'good' about themselves, and for some people like you, feeling good about yourself and Elfenwolf involves trying to make someone else feel bad about themself.  Everyone has to deal with stress in some way.. I just think y'alls way of doing it is rather pathetic.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Urchin
Kinda like the old saying off "Boss yells at the man, man yells at the wife (or I guess in Elfenwolfs case he just beats her), wife yells at kid, kid yells at the dog.

You forgot the ending:
Dog bites the mailman, mailman takes an AK-47 to work and wipes out his co-workers.

-Sikboy

[Dago]

My experience in the working corporate world, and sitting through a few companywide required "harrassement" type classes enables me to form this opinion:

1) They did not have to issue you your check early, nice if they would, but not required.

2) If you even once used the "f" word, and the woman you used it to filed a complaint with the company, they had no choice but terminate your employment.  If they didnt, she would have a great lawsuit against them for allowing you to create and maintain an intimidating workplace.

3) I have never heard that it is illegal anywhere in the USA to give a good or bad reference, but a large percentage of companies by written policy will only officially supply a confirmation of employment stating date of hiring and date of employment termination (whatever the reason, fired, quit, etc.).  They follow these policies to prevent lawsuits by a company they recommended a person to, or a person who was not hired elsewhere because of a bad reference.  Good or bad opinions are just that, subjective opinions and can be challenged in court.  Factual information can be provided without fear of lawsuit.  This does not in any way prevent one HR person whispering to another HR person "off the record" what they know, and you will have a heck of time proving that conversation ever existed.

My suggestion, move on, forget about it, but be honest in future employment search.  Explain the situation if asked, and admit you made a mistake that you would never repeat.  Just my thoughts, good luck,

dago

[Toad]

Originally posted by Creamo
We ass's take draw a fine line. Being dumb would be that line.

This has the flavor and nearly the quality of some of your better stuff. Note quite a coffee-nose explosion, but not bad. It's great to see a guy making a comeback and getting into his old form!

BTW, I met Urchin at the con. I'm pretty sure most of the guys dissing here would like him. He's pretty much like the rest of us in person; a likeable chap.

As Rude, Milo and I were discussing on the way back, you'd probably never see a true bunghole at a con. That's not an environment they would seek.

Urchin, my .02? Yep, ya screwed the pooch on this one.

OTOH, if you didn't like the job, the only thing really hurt here is ego or pride or whatever you want to call it. They fired ya. Big deal.. it happens. Some of the richest guys in the world were fired from jobs at one time or another.

Time to move on, mate. There's another job out there waiting and if you're half as good as your inner self tells you that you are... you'll do better and enjoy the next one more.

Close the book

[Karnak]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yes tell us what store this is.  


But anyway this is clearly a case where you were fired because you argued with a legaly superior class of person. You a male are not allowed to argue with women in an agressive manner in a wrkplace, so you were fired. If you feel you have nothing to live for it might be a good idea to go in there and shoot up the place, BUT I AM NOT TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THAT AT ALL.

Go git em tiger!

What is it with some Conservatives and feeling victimized by women?

I have never felt that I had to modify my behavior when dealing with female co-workers vs male co-workers.  This paranoia that GRUNHERZ and senna display is completely baffling to me and massively overblown.

[Elfenwolf]

Originally posted by Urchin
As a general rule I don't go out of my way to diddly with people, Creamo.  Not even on the Internet when you can talk without having to face any real consequences.  What I did I did because I was angry.

Some folks take pride in their ability to piss other people off, I just don't happen to be one of them.

Well, take pride in this, Urchin- You genuinely pissed me off. Not just because you lambasted a woman who was only trying to do her job- not only because you came here looking for sympathy and when confronted with a disenting point of view you offered to fight me- but yea, you are a genuine piece o chit. You don't scare me, impress me nor intimidate me. In fact you can kiss my ass. Sincerely.

[Urchin]

Elfenwolf.. I don't come here looking for friends.  The fact that I 'piss you off' means less than nothing to me.  I don't know you, I'm never going to meet you (because as was posted above... you really aren't the sort of person who WANTS to meet the people you are insulting).  Why should I care what you think?

I'm also still waiting on that callsign..... ace.

[Kanth]

The note was basically a list of things he'd like to do with me, which won't be listed on this forum and I can't remember them anyway..

and he didn't disappear I did.
I moved far enough away that he'd never find me.

it's been a while now and I'm in a different state now so I don't worry.

It's good you are doing that kind of work..lotta bad things happen to alotta people.

Originally posted by Hortlund


What did the note say? Did he just dissapear when you moved? Is it long ago?

Ive been doing some volounteer work for a runaway shelter (kinda hard to translate, its a place where women who needs to hide for some reason come. No men are allowed there, and I dont even know where the shelter is, but I help them with various legal stuff) and I have heard too many stories like yours.

[Elfenwolf]

On Toad's character recomendation I'll chill out on Urchin. My respect for Toad outweighs the disrespect I hold for Urchin so I will refrain from insulting him further. I'm over it, and if Urchin isn't I'd be more than happy to offer him room and board for a weekend so we can discuss our differences. C'mon out Urchin. pool. hot tub, beer on tap- hell, my wife is pals with a whole bunch of nude dancers so I can guarantee you nude babes in the hot tub, which is a hell of a lot better than sweaty dudes wrestling in the driveway.

[Toad]

Elf, you absolutely SHOULD NOT meet Urchin without a neutral party to resolve these serious issues.

I hereby volunteer my valuable time to join you and Urchin at a "hot tub retreat" so that we can all be friends.

[sling322]

Originally posted by Elfenwolf
pool. hot tub

Judging from what was seen at the con...you may want to reconsider that offer.  Or you may have a mess of a hairball to clean outta the filter afterwards.  

[Elfenwolf]

Originally posted by Urchin
I'm never going to meet you (because as was posted above... you really aren't the sort of person who WANTS to meet the people you are insulting).  Why should I care what you think?

I'm also still waiting on that callsign..... ace.

Actually I've met about fifteen to twenty AW-AHers and personally it's a blast to match a face with a personality. In fact I hope to meet several more AH pilots at the Reno Air Races in September. The Con would have been fun, but my wife said no, so maybe next year. From all the posts I've read it sounds like everyone had a blast. LOL I'd be more than happy to meet you or anyone else that plays AH. What would you do, beat me up? LOL I doubt it. Get real, son.