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Wotan · « **on:** September 11, 2002, 11:56:04 PM »

I am finally back in rotation as a ct cm. I was away while serving as Axis co for the Battle of Britain.

I am thinking of trying something Different for my week as CT cm (1 week from this friday, Brady has the Next set up then will be me).

Heres my thoughts.

I wish to run a set up similiar to what we ran in the "Bigweek Scenario"

Allies

Us Iron

p47d11
p38
p51b
B17
B26
A20s

Raf
Spit 9
Typh
Mossie
Bostons
Lanc

Axis
109g6
190a5
190a8
110g2

I would be using the Big Week map as well:

As you can see there are not a lot of airfields so I would disable field capture. Bases could still be attacked and "closed" pushing the lw back. This concerns me that most folks would jabo all the lw fields making the set up no fun for the lw.

The 38 carries enough bombs on its own to shut down a field. If I would run this set up I would increase ack lethality quite a bit to keep field rapes to a minimum. I may also adjust structure hardness and downtimes to ensure that the axis have fields to fly from.

The "object" this set up is for the bombers to be used as attack/strat bombers and for the allied fighters to run sweeps and escort. Theres lots of "strat" targets in this map. I am also concerned that these strat objects will be raped by jabos. There no aa at the strat objects all though there is plenty of 88.

To solve this I will adjust the fuel mod to to force the allies to carry dts to make to the strat objects and home.

However this also effects the lw. These maps are condensed in the horizontal. The use of fuel mods shortens and extends he range you can traval horizontally. However in the verticle we are still 1 to 1. This means that the poor climbing lw burn more fuel getting to alt. The lw planes carry less fuel then the allied planes so the effect is greater in terms of time in the air.

I am also cocerned that mossies and a20s and b26s will be the bombers of choice for the allies. They could fly noe to the strat objects and level them. Short of eliminating these planes theres very little I can do with this map to limit this.

I may allow the lw to use ju88s as a way to strike af in england.

I am also concerned about the number of bomber pilots and sorties we will see. Most ct'rs are fight jocks and the bomber community in ah as a whole is limited.

Please offer your suggestions. Do you think a set up like this is viable? Is it worth a shot?

Give me a nice clean debate. Any suggestion or input is appreciated.

cajun · « **Reply #1 on:** September 12, 2002, 12:24:28 AM »

Nice, but could you do it in a 1941-42 set up?

Squire · « **Reply #2 on:** September 12, 2002, 01:57:01 AM »

I like it, its a very fair matchup, with interesting types.

Saintaw · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2002, 02:48:44 AM »

<-- Occasional CT pilot only.

I'm wondering about the fuel burn settings, most of us are "used" to this/that time of flight in a particular aircraft. I personaly seldom look at my fuel gauge, especially while fighting per-se... How about reducing bomb effectiveness? Can you maybe force certain loadouts ? (500Lbs max instead of 1000lbs on the fighters?) Just a wild thought.

Oleg · « **Reply #4 on:** September 12, 2002, 02:52:11 AM »

Yes! Yes! I can not wait till this setup will comes!

(Heh-heh-heh

)

But I do not think what I will bomb these "strat targets"...

Wotan · « **Reply #5 on:** September 12, 2002, 03:32:20 AM »

Fuel modifier for the main in 1.5

Most ct set ups are 1.5 as well. For this map I was thinking 1.7 or 1.8. No I cant limit ord loadouts.

This is what I can do.

I can max out "field flashing range" or extend dot radar to the deck. Either of these will let the lw see if the allies are coming Noe.

I could make airfields unkillable but that just doesnt seem right. I could up the Structure Hardness and aaa lethality. This will make fighter bomber raids more dangerous and a bit harder to get
results.

Heres a fuel usage chart for fighters this chart is at 2.0. I may set the fuel mod as high as 1.8.

However the concern with fighter bombers flying all the way from england and strafing and rocketing what are in effect "factory buildings" is a concern. At these factory complexes theres no aaa (was an oversight during the map design). There is a large number of 88 batterries. It is a thrill to fly over these factories.

Heres an image of the 88

The factories are shown on the map as "fuel depos"

Brunswick
Ochersleben
Magdeburg
Bernburg
Leipzig
Gotha
Schweinfurt
Regensburg
Augsburg
Stuttgart

Heres an image of Augsburg

These factorie complexes are huge and are nothing like you have seen in the main. # complexes make up 1 target. On the uppr right side of each complex theres 2 fighter hangers. This will give you an idea of their size.

They are large but unprotected from lo jabos.

Saintaw · « **Reply #6 on:** September 12, 2002, 05:45:46 AM »

Looks good Wotan, although I guess you will have to rely on player's sportsmanship if those factories are protected by 88's alone(sp?)

Would be a nice thing if CM's would be able to set ordonance loads (hint hint Hitech

)

Give a shout wheen it's up, will give it a try! (Saw the original "Memphis Belle" documentary yesterday... might want to look at it again before I step in those B17's

)

oboe · « **Reply #7 on:** September 12, 2002, 06:31:08 AM »

It looks like a fine setup, we in the 27th Sentai discovered the fun of bomber hunting last week with the Channel Front 1944 setup.

Personally, I'm ready for a PTO setup. Been the LW two weeks in a row now and I'm anxious to see the Rising Sun again.

Remember the largest CT squad is a USN group. They are probably anxious to get into their Hellcats again.

ergRTC · « **Reply #8 on:** September 12, 2002, 08:14:05 AM »

Yes it does look good, I would just toss the jabos. We are used to limited planesets in here, and I dont think a20gs or bostons or b26s are appropriate for egging germany.

And again, I was kinda under the impression we would be getting a usn map after this next setup....

brady · « **Reply #9 on:** September 12, 2002, 08:23:03 AM »

Ya the abality to limit ordance load outs would be awsome!:)

keyapaha · « **Reply #10 on:** September 12, 2002, 09:45:58 AM »

yup looks good to me I missed the big week run this will give me a chance to fly the B17 and B26 some (I rarely get to) those factories look cool cant wait to rearange them some.

During squad nights I will hunt them down we had a good time last set up trying to hunt down and enguage VF27's bomber mission last week.

Someone suggested we get rid of the B26 and A20 but as I recall these planes regularly bombed and straffed aerodomes in France and Holland which looking at this map the axis front line fields are in those locations besides b26 carries a light load of bombs u would quite a few of em to do serious damage to those factories posted above.

Giving the axis the ju88 for there own bombing is ok although I doubt it will be used much ju88 is easy meat aginst those allied fighters with the exception of the p38.

But all in all this looks to be a very interesting week I will be playing both sides of the fence on this one.

ergRTC · « **Reply #11 on:** September 12, 2002, 09:49:19 AM »

Yep same here. Maybe the vf27 and the sentai can swap sides for our squad nights, getting a chance to try it from both angles.....

erg

HFMudd · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2002, 09:53:07 AM »

My $.02...

- I've no real problem with the A20, packs a punch as JABO but is just a free kill once spotted by a 190. (IMHO of course!)
- Enable the allied bombers and fighters at *different* fields
- Disable bomb and rocket loadouts at the fighter fields to prevent waves of P38s and Jugs plastering the factories.

I'll be there in a 190A8 with my leather undies and the speed showing nothing under 300!

ergRTC · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2002, 10:04:39 AM »

Great idea! That would do it wouldnt it? This could be a real good setup.

keyapaha · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2002, 10:14:55 AM »

erg,

that would be interesting to say the least we'll see what we can do when the time comes.