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Offline JB73

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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2002, 06:08:12 PM »
hey urchin ....

im 29 and live at home. i have a crappy job that pays $10/hr. my job has me going a different place every day and i the expences of that are way more than i make up in pay. i have an illness called "stills disease" which could come back anytime or never. if it does i cant work and go deeper into debt. it came up Christmas of '97 and i got of meds 1 yr ago. i was unemployed for 10 months back then... with a girfriend and brand new car payments. i went into debt BAD (about $15000 not including the car loan) girlfriend dumped me after 8 yrs .... said she couldn't handel the stress of me being sick. i have about $11000 debt right now.

i only have 3 or 4 "real friends" and not a single prospect on a woman. i go to work, come home and play AH. thats about it.

i am trying for my MCSE but with recent events i havent gone to class for a while (see below).

my mother just died suddenly in her sleep 2 months ago.


anyway after all this im still doing ok. yes id be happier with my own place, a girlfriend, a real job, and a few other things. but im still OK.

i know im not the social king that can be liked by everyone. i know im not the most attractive guy around. i know many other people seem to have "normal" lives. i also know they dont! they have problems just like all of us. they can sometimes hide it better, but in the end they are the same.

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i really hope noone replies to this saying "oh shut up with your sob story" or something like that ..... i want no different thoughts of me or any ideas im looking for sympathy... im only trying to let urchin know there are others out there that are not in the best of circumstances.

<> urchin and keep your head up and your gunsights straight :)

btw if you ever need anyone to b*tch to or anything lemme know:
dmray_1@yahoo.com
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Offline Hawklore

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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2002, 07:04:39 PM »
GET HELP AND TALK TO PEOPLE DONT DO WHAT YER THINKING OF DOING IT JUST MAKES IT WORSE TRUST ME.[/COLOR]

Ok but look you are a senior member have some thousands of posts is that not an accomplisment?

Well i Think so


Its not funny
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Trouble no one about their religion;
respect others in their view, and demand that they respect yours.
Love your life, perfect your life, beautify all things in your life." - Chief Tecumseh

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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2002, 07:57:50 PM »
This last few years have been hell for me and my girlfriend.

I probably shouldnt be saying this in public but I will do anything just to get anybody to think twice about suicide.

Coming up will be the second year anniversary of my Girlfriends Sister comitting suicide. I never met her, I had only seen pictures. She was 16 years old. I tried to play the role of Good Boyfriend by comforting my girlfriend. If anybody has been in this predicament too you because it is a difficult situation.

I never knew the pain of suicide.

Until Feburary of this year, A few weeks after my 21st birthday my own Mother killed herself. I was expecting a birthday card or at least a phone call for I had not talked to her since Christmas. Not until after my birthday I recieved a call from my Grandmother telling me the horrible news. My jaw dropped. Now I understood what my Girl friend went through.

I ended up dropping out of college and cooking full time. It took me 3 months to enroll back in school. I comtemplated suicide everyday until we put my mom to rest.

I had become a living zombie. I didnt shave for weeks. I drank and drank and drank. My life had become a total toejam fest.

We spread my Moms ashes on a roadside rest stop on Old route 50 on Cheat Mountain,I remember stopping there many times during our 8 hour drive from Virginia Beach VA to Clarksburg WV.We even planted a nice fir tree on top of her ashes. Me, my Sister, her boyfriend, my father, and my Grandmother were the only people in attendance.

Right then and there I realized life was to precious to take your own.

If you feel like talking please email me-

Whymanbuster420@yahoo.com
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Offline N1kPaz

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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2002, 08:25:50 PM »
when you think of ending your life, remember those who you leave behind.

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« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2002, 08:31:04 PM »
This has certainly turned into an upbeat thread.

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« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2002, 09:03:45 PM »
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I don't think I'd actually kill myself, I'm too chicken to do it.  As far as 'getting help' and getting medicine, I don't have any health insurance, and I don't have enough money to pay for it.  

Besides, I don't think Im depressed, I just think I'm honest.  I'm not going to decieve myself and say "Sure champ, you are doing just GREAT".  That brings up another question.  If you go to some shrink, who gives you some meds to take... all you are doing is getting high so you don't think about how much your life sucks.  I don't use drugs, and that is all those are.  I'm 24, unemployed, I live at home, I've got one real friend (who isn't quite as big a loser as me, he is a couple years younger), and apparently I'm


Ah, your still a young man.  I hit this point at about your age.  But I was also leaving the drug abuse environment at the time as well and trying to get myself established.  There are several critical points in life: puberty, early adulthood, middleage to name a few.  You're probably hitting one of them at your own pace.  If your current situation bothers you, start making plans, and following them, to make changes.  Work on establishing a skill.

Oh and don't worry.  It gets worst, alot worst.  Get married and have kids.  Then you won't have enough time to worry about your life, you'll be too busy worrying about someone elses.

Truthfully, you seem to be at your happiest when helping others.  That's probably the angle you should work.

Mac out

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« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2002, 09:53:36 PM »
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Now I'm doing substitute teaching, and I only work about 2 days a week.  
 


Have you thought about teaching full time?  What is your education background?  Have you looked into what it would take to get an education degree and/or certification?  Teaching can be very rewarding.  If you like being a sub, you will love teaching full time.  If you have a degree, you could be only one year away certification.  

Urchin,
Dont knock meds.  A lot of folks have a chemical imbalance that can be fixed with the right drug.  I know many folks who take meds and finally enjoy life.  Ive also met many who have had bad experiences with meds.  It could be the right thing, or the wrong thing for you.  Counseling could be the answer as well.  
Can you ask your parents for money to go see a doctor?  I know it may seem weird, but they most likely would be eager to help once they know what state of mind your in.

When I was 24, I thought my life sucked too.  I was also depressed and thought very much of my self as you do about yourself.  I never could have imagined that six years later I would meet my soul-mate.  Now we have a perfect marriage and 2 beautiful daughters.  We are as poor as it rocks because Im a teacher, but life really is good.  Life can change for the better in a day.

As a teacher, I know Im making a contribution to society, which is important to me.  And as you have also found out, working with kids is a blast.  
Ill be honest with you, teaching sucks in a lot of ways.  The hours are very long, the pay is terrible, administrators and lawmakers can make the job nearly impossible.  But, the big benefit is that you get to work with kids everyday.  (He he, speaking of ironic, I get to play substitute tomorrow too.  I just now got a call from my principal asking if I would fill in for one of the 3rd grade teachers who called in sick.  Im the computer teacher at a K-8 school.)  
If you are thinking about education, try out all grades and classes while you can as a sub.  

P.S.  As a sub; work hard, do all you can to help out, dress professionally, have (or fake) a good attitude, talk to teachers, etc. and you will soon have more job offers than you can handle.  In most districts throughout the country there is a huge substitute shortage (which is why Im teaching 3rd grade tomorrow, no subs to be found, all because sub pay sucks, as if you didnt know!)  It takes a bit time to get yourself known, but very often it leads to a full time job.  I got my first full time job teaching first grade at a school that I often subbed at.  Its a great way to get your foot in the door and figure out what you want to do.

Anyway Urchin, you are NOT a looser, your just young and trying to find your place in life.  For many of us it takes time.  Please find a way to go see a doctor.  A lot of people do care about you, whether or not you realize it.  You are respected among our AH community, and we want to see you happy with your life.  

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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2002, 10:32:50 PM »
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I don't think I'd actually kill myself, It just seems to me there is either something wrong with like EVERYBODY, or there is something wrong with ME.  Using common sense would tell people it is far more likely that one person is 'defective' than an entire society.


I don't know you and you don't know me so take this or leave it.

Having been through similar times and feeling similar thoughts to what you expressed here I've got just one thing to say.

Most people are stumblingly diddlying stupid. :p

oops, that's me on a norm.. er bad day.

Truth is, most folks are decent and feel just about like you do from time to time. One thing you might try, and it took me twenty plus years of working to figure this one out, is to learn to lead from the middle of the pack. Don't worry about managers. Worry about you and your buds working with you. Do that well and continuosly and soon enough you'll be the manager and find out why that lead dog crap isn't all it's cracked up to be. Give it time though. Hell, you're still a pup. :)

Tex

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« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2002, 10:43:27 PM »
Suicide is something that cannot be taken lightly. Once you go...you're gone, with no turning back or "respawning" to get you through it.

Always remember if you're ever concidering suicide. How will everyone around you feel? How will your parents react when your brother or best friend calls them to tell them their son or daughter has killed herself? How would your best friends react if they ever found your last note? How would anyone you knew ever cope with the loss?

It is a bad situation. I have never had to deal with it, but allow me to share my own advice.

Life is a gift...a gift that cannot be wasted. No matter what you are doing...your life is a very tender thing. Life never truly sucks so bad you must end it. If you end it, then how will you get a chance to experience the true joys of it? How can you feel the happiness of watching your first child be born, or the loving smile of your wife or girlfriend? How can you experience the fun of hanging out with your friends, or catching a movie with your brother? When you're young, you've got plenty of time to allow life to get better, and let it fix itself.

Please...anyone out there who is concidering suicide...think about what I said. I know it is babbling, and it makes little sense...but it's how I see it.

Good day...

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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2002, 11:27:26 PM »
Urchin..
I think it just makes you open minded..

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« Reply #55 on: September 20, 2002, 12:09:18 AM »
Let me see when I was 24 I still lived at home, just had a major heart break from a girl and felt alone in a crowded room. Caught my father, parents got a divorce shortly after that (you guys could figure it out).

Things get tough sometimes... talk to your friends, parents, whoever you are comfortable with. Since you are unemployed perhaps go back to school, try a new career the IT field is very tough right now. I had thoughts similiar to your own when I was younger, you can persevere. Just ask lazs or hooligan what a fine upstanding person I am now. ;)

Take care of yourself, see a professional if needed if you don't have the money borrow some from your parents or something.

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« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2002, 12:19:00 AM »
Even at best, with perfect health and safety, life is far too short.. don't be in a hurry to end it.. that will come far too soon enough naturally.

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« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2002, 12:56:07 AM »
Urchin...

I just thought of this and am surprised no one has brought it up before...

If you want to change your life forever, join the military.  Any branch will do... of course Im partial to the Marine Corps.  ;)

You will gain self respect, confidence, and  the problems you are experiencing now wont even exist in your mind.

I think you should seriously consider it.  If you have a college education, apply for an officer program... hell, if your eyesight is good... apply for an air contract.  Go play AH for real... wish I could.  (Damn eyes... stuck on the ground)  :(

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« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2002, 02:36:16 AM »
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Originally posted by gofaster
You wanna be dead?  BANG! You're dead.


worked for me :D
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« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2002, 05:24:23 AM »
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Urchin,
Another benefit of being a teacher:  Its a great place to meet women (I was already married, when I started in education, but still I noticed the male to female ratio was astounding).  I remember taking my first state exam, I was one of the few men among the sea of mostly collage age women.  I often attend ed. seminars where the male to female ratio is anywhere from 10:1 to 100:1.  (especially in primary ed.)

Food for thought...

eskimo