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Offline Dingy

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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2001, 10:28:00 PM »
     
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
The whole post on the UBB could of been subverted had you shown equality in your powers. Instead you chose one party of a two party argument.

The second paragraph is what threw my into my rage. How many times has there been a problem with me before this?

Anyway, it's your game and you can discriminate as you feel fit. Funny, both parties were insulted but only one side was "punished".


Rather than repeat myself, I find it a lot easier to cut n paste...
-SW

My Cod!  Just give it a rest wont you? You have stated your points upteen-hundred times already.  Think this inability to get over might be a signal to something???

<RING RING!>Hey! Wulfie, Its the clue phone, I think its for you!

sad;lfhsaplkj

Thats my head hitting the keyboard!      

LOL Geez!

-Ding


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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2001, 10:39:00 PM »
Yeah Dingy... HT lost a decent person and kept... well you.

I guess his intervention did work, he's keeping all the children in his playground.
-SW

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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2001, 10:41:00 PM »
HTC, before you lock this thread, thanks for the info and good move, from a paying customer.

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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2001, 10:49:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by AKSeaWulfe:
Yeah Dingy... HT lost a decent person and kept... well you.

I guess his intervention did work, he's keeping all the children in his playground.
-SW

As if insults aimed at me arent enough, you go and insult the entire arena.  

Ok gang, Im done with Wulfie at this point.  I apologize for all the wasted bandwidth this feud has consumed.  

-Ding

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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2001, 12:31:00 AM »
I still dont understand the need for monitors.

We have a squelch command.
 
I dislike very much the fact that another "player" has any say so in anyway form or fashion in what I say or do online.

This leaves way to much power in the hands of any "player" who no matter how good and holy he might be will still form opinions of other players he flies and fights against.

I dont think this unknown godpowered monitor "player" cared much for Seawulf.

This isnt right.

LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2001, 12:48:00 AM »
Just pretend that they are baseball umpires in the off season; but where the heck are they when you really need one?  

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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2001, 01:00:00 AM »
I have no prob with HTC appointed refs.

No problem at all.  

It amazes me that it has taken this long for someone to get the treatment.

Sorry for the guy that felt slighted.  toejam happens.

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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2001, 02:50:00 AM »
Im all for it, this "Monitor" thingy-ma-do.

 I mean even if it's guys that are like a bunch of Twisted Sister groupies... willing to do anything for free, as long as they have a title and some "special" control bestode upon them by HTC.

Lol...sheesh.

Still, I will for a free AH account "Monitor" all the bad, terrible people that argue and naturally verbally spar with their opponents while excited and stimulated by a such a competative online environment which AH undeniably provides.

I don't care if they are so wound up in the sim they actually talk and taunt others in a competative and agressive way. They will be squelched, banned, and driven to a public BBS to vent as I will make their arguments in the heat of the moment silent.

I guarrentee I will promise that per HiTech Im accountable to HTC only, and be anonymous.

Hmmmmmmm.

Naw, Ill pay my $30 a month and and enjoy myself. I just hope those tards don't start using their wannabe HTC employee tools on my dime.


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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2001, 04:27:00 AM »
Creamo... were you in 6th RFC Blacklions for DoA ?  (or the 5th ?).   If so <S> x-squady  

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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2001, 10:56:00 AM »
 
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Creamo... were you in 6th RFC Blacklions for DoA ?  (or the 5th ?).   If so <S> x-squady  

Hey Petrel, didn't know you was a UK guy! <S>

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« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2001, 11:18:00 AM »
thought this thread was about computer monitors  

Just another "doesn't apply to me " thread


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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2001, 01:08:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by llbm_MOL:
I still dont understand the need for monitors.

We have a squelch command.
 
I dislike very much the fact that another "player" has any say so in anyway form or fashion in what I say or do online.

This leaves way to much power in the hands of any "player" who no matter how good and holy he might be will still form opinions of other players he flies and fights against.

I dont think this unknown godpowered monitor "player" cared much for Seawulf.

This isnt right.

LLB OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

What HE said

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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2001, 01:15:00 PM »
Too much power?  This power will be abused in order to...

-Usurp the government?

-Incredible financial gain?

-Subvert the constitution?

-Steal nuclear secrets to sell to the middle east and china?

-Steal the rook (knight, bishop) secret attack planes?

-Hold people ransom for perk points?


Or perhaps just keep things a bit quieter on channel 1, so that those quiet majority of customers who simply want to log on and fly a bit from time to time don't have to squelch 1.

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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2001, 01:19:00 PM »
Agree with Fatty, however the swearing doesn't bother me as much as the racist stuff.  

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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2001, 01:52:00 PM »
I find this to be more than a little disappointing.  We don't want to control anybody's behavior, we want them to show some self-control.  Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everybody.  This subject has been broached many times on the board.  The suggestions of granting people some power to help alleviate this is something we were strongly against at first.  We considered a lot of other options, but their drawbacks were worse.  We reversed and decided to try this method.  It's been working smoothly for the last few months, but we also realize there will occasionally be problems.  

I personally am pretty liberal about it.  A simple reminder usually works for me when I see somebody losing their poise or pushing the envelope.  But that's me too, I've seen people react very negatively when given a similar reminder from another player.  I am also far more likely to witness poor conduct when people don't know that I'm online.  It's one thing when somebody gets carried away, it's another when somebody is blatantly trying to abuse, incite, or offend people.  I have had to summarily dismiss people from the service for egregious and indefensible behavior.  But those are people who didn't come to play the game, they came to abuse the system.  

Some people would like to have a very clear cut definition of what is and isn't acceptable.  We can no more make a clear definition about that than congress can define what pornography is and isn't or the NBA can define what is and isn't a technical foul.  I can give some clear-cut examples but I can't define the gray area.  There is no clear line to toe.  It comes down to our opinion as to whether something is detrimental to our business.  We can't uniformly enforce a strict policy and we make no claims to do so and will not be liable for failing to do so.  For most people this doesn't matter since they're not trying to toe the line.

We've had no issues like this one the past few months that this has been in place but inevitably something will come up that will ruffle some feathers.  What concerns me more is reading a post like the one DoK made recently as a somebody new to AH and his observations concerning the conduct of some players.  How's it appear to the new guy who just came online for the first time?

In this particular instance, I would have initially thought that a mute was probably not warranted, but even so, it's not like it's capital punishment.  Hopefully, it keeps you from saying something you would regret and nobody else wants to hear.  Judging by the vitriol in the other thread, I'd say it was a good thing if that was an example of where the conversation was going in the arena.  

We realize that questionable calls may happen.  We're not doing this to be unfair and try to target or slight people.  I'm sorry if you feel that way.  It's not something we like to have to deal with.  Between developing and supporting the game and administrating the business side, we're always stretched for time and having to work out of multiple holes.  To think that our motivations in having to deal with this is other than a pragmatic necessary evil is something I can't even comprehend.



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