Author Topic: Explosive loads for Zeros and Zekes?  (Read 621 times)

Offline Fancy

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« on: September 29, 2002, 07:26:35 PM »
I know it's morbid, but shouldn' t there be an option to loadout your Zero with high exlposives?  It's historically correct, but you probably know that.

I imagine the biggest issue is that it would become the dweeb plane du jour against TGs, but maybe that could be offset by stripping guns when explosives were loaded (wasn't that the way it went in WWII) which would make it much more difficult to even reach the CV.  Or perhaps charging a few perkies to load it on....Just a thought.

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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2002, 07:53:25 PM »
lol i like that (heres me thinkin about it with that option).......... um.......... eh i feel like a kamakize tonight

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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2002, 08:12:13 PM »
er uh,
Kamikazi attacks are the most effective way to kill CV's already.

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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2002, 08:21:32 PM »
There are some aspects of war I'd rather NOT relive in a lighthearted computer game.  

Dedicated Kamikazes, incendiary firebombing, civilian strafing, concentration camps, human suffering in general......all of this stuff can just stay in the history books as far as I'm concerned.

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2002, 09:17:18 PM »
yah but thats just the thing jab ............ do u think that pilots shot down  riding there parachutes down to the ground though "awwwwwwwwww........ man this guy is a real dweeb he's goin to shoot me in my chute" no they were screaming bloody murder as they saw there life flash before there eye's...........

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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2002, 09:49:00 PM »
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yah but thats just the thing jab ............ do u think that pilots shot down  riding there parachutes down to the ground though "awwwwwwwwww........ man this guy is a real dweeb he's goin to shoot me in my chute" no they were screaming bloody murder as they saw there life flash before there eye's...........


What's your point?  I agree with J_A_B.

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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2002, 09:56:55 PM »
.......... my point is the eliment of death is in the game already............. so whats ur problem with taking it to the nest level.............

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2002, 09:57:00 PM »
.......... my point is the eliment of death is in the game already............. so whats ur problem with taking it to the next level.............

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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2002, 10:32:14 PM »
Dying isn't the point.    The point is some aspects of a war don't really belong in a computer GAME, realistic or not.

DEATH is not the issue.  What you're REPRESENTINGe.  If AH pilots of 109's and 190's had to click a checkbox that said "I swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler" before taking off, wouldn't that change the character of the game (for the worse)??

In AH you shoot parachutes because it deprives the other guy of some points (or if you're like me you DON'T shoot them).   The chute-shooting in AH is generally caused by the AH scoring system and isn't really related to the occurances of chute-shooting in reality.  

But add a Kamikaze Zeke you'd be doing that specifically for the purpose of re-living one of the saddest chapters of Japanese history, seeing as for gameplay purposes suicide attacks work perfectly fine already.  

Some things are just....distasteful.....reali stic or not.  No healthy person would want to see a realistic "Gas the Jew" game.   Some things are just better left OUT of a game.

Using a suicide Tiffie or N1K or whatever to sink a CV in AH is one thing.....actually pretending to BE a Kamikaze pilot, and having such as a built-in feature of the game, is entirely different, and is IMO crossing the line of decency.  YMMV (but hopefully not much).

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2002, 11:05:17 PM »
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.......... my point is the eliment of death is in the game already............. so whats ur problem with taking it to the next level.............


You really should lay off of the periods.

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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2002, 11:56:39 PM »
What J_A_B said.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2002, 12:16:43 AM »
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In AH you shoot parachutes because it deprives the other guy of some points (or if you're like me you DON'T shoot them).   The chute-shooting in AH is generally caused by the AH scoring system

J_A_B


Not that I yearn for the Divine Wind, but if you think chuteing is related to the scoring system, your severely self deluded.

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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2002, 01:23:41 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2002, 04:12:52 AM »
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DEATH is not the issue. What you're REPRESENTINGe. If AH pilots of 109's and 190's had to click a checkbox that said "I swear allegiance to Adolf Hitler" before taking off, wouldn't that change the character of the game (for the worse)??


Not onlt would it make a turn for the worse but there wouldn't be any 190's or 109's flying anymore. I sure as hell wouldn't fly them.

As for Kamikazes, you can do that already, just dive in with a tiffie (just something with alot of bombs) and drop the eggs right before you crash.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2002, 05:47:43 AM »
Perversion does not necessarily require physical reality.

 If some Luftwaffe/Wehrmacht fans would want Auschwitz portrayed in AH, and would want to gas "virtual Jews" to death, would you approve?

 Just because "they are not real", "we aren't really physically harming anyone" does it mean it is irrelevant from mental, humanistic, and political issues?

 I know the original post doesn't intend this sort of thing. I am responding to the justification of problematic depiction on the basis that it is "virtual" and not "real".

 The "next level" is somewhere we should never, ever try to go. This sort of "advance" and "progress" we can live without.