Author Topic: Gun control (Read 2415 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #45 on:** October 09, 2002, 05:46:59 PM »

We need a "war on guns" just like our "war on drugs" in order to prevent events like the sniper killings.

DmdBT · « **Reply #46 on:** October 09, 2002, 06:45:18 PM »

Funny how the gun-toters always like to point out the so called failings of the municipalities which have actually wisened up and outlawed these killing devices. They say... "see, they have X number of laws, banned guns altogether and still they have gun crime." Well, until all of the USA wises up and eliminates private gun ownership there will always be an avenue for criminals to obtain them. There is no need in this modern day and age for citizens to own guns, none. Its not like we can't drive 10 minutes in any direction and find a shopping center with plenty of food and last time I checked our so called "Native Americans" or rather "American Kurds" were tucked away nicely in their US Gov't "reservations".

What we need is a "noodle enlargement for weapons" program so those 3" donuted NRA members can quit trying to compensate and move on with their pathetic lives and our children can live without fear of getting shot walking into school.

Lonz

Vulcan · « **Reply #47 on:** October 09, 2002, 06:48:02 PM »

My dad has a lovely Belgium made Browning .22 pump action (looks like a miniturised pump action shotgun). A very quiet, accurate rifle. He also had a friend who had a .22 bolt action fitted with a scope and a silencer, once again very accurate.

The scoped silenced .22 was nasty. It was small, very portable, and the low velocity (subsonic) rounds did a lot of damage (a lower velocity round tends to do more damage if you hit them right). Both my father and this guy were involved in the security business and got a lot of international publications (corporate, not the stuff you pick up off the shelf) and most of the security briefs were about .22 calibre weapons being the biggest dangers.

I got to play with M-16s in air cadets for a bit, and SLR's. The SLR L1A1 was like a small cannon. The M-16 (.223) wasn't much louder than a .22LR.

I'd agree its either someone covering up a homocide, or Al Qaeda testing a new method of terrorism out.

If its the latter, $5 says the DC shottings stop and this guy reappears somewhere on the other side of the states a month later.

Airhead · « **Reply #48 on:** October 09, 2002, 06:49:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hawk, 2nd only to NYC. Guess who has the most homocides a year?

San Francisco???

john9001 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 09, 2002, 07:32:22 PM »

why is DmdBT/lonz bragging about his 3" p***** in a gun control thread?, and yes "save the children""body bags""assualt rifles"cop killer bullets"'save social security""save the enviorment""peace now" "hell no , we wont go"etc etc etc

44MAG

PS i forgot "peace in our time"

PPS i do agree however that children and liberals should not have guns , they will just put their eye out, guns should only be owned by adults.

oarsman · « **Reply #50 on:** October 09, 2002, 07:35:18 PM »

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Originally posted by DmdBT
Well, until all of the USA wises up and eliminates private gun ownership there will always be an avenue for criminals to obtain them. There is no need in this modern day and age for citizens to own guns, none.
Lonz

This dog's owner never did anything to you, why can't he keep his guns and continue to enjoy hunting? By the way, hunters and fishermen pay an overwhelming amount of the costs for wildlife conservation, for game and non-game species in the US.

Vulcan · « **Reply #51 on:** October 09, 2002, 07:49:42 PM »

The problem (from the outside looking in) in the US is the ease at buying guns and the range of weapons available.

In NZ its pretty straightforward. You don't need automatic weapons or pistols. You have to be licensed, and there are basic gun safety tests you are required to pass. Police also do a background check, and you have to provide evidence of a safe lockup (ie lockable cabinet) where the weapon and ammo will be stored.

Thus we have happy hunters/gun owners and relatively little firearms crimes (they still occur, but I doubt gunlaws would curb the individual events).

Puck · « **Reply #52 on:** October 09, 2002, 08:03:56 PM »

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Originally posted by DmdBT
There is no need in this modern day and age for citizens to own guns, none.

I feel the same way about cars. No need for them. Bicycles or public transportation is the only way to go. Farmers can use horse-drawn carts.

It would be nice to be able to get from my house to the market without nearly getting run over by some pathetic moron with a 3 inch noodle who overcompensates with a big car.

I mean, really. Has anyone seen the highway fatality statistics? I was a street medic (off an on) for close to 20 years, and if you look back over my run reports automobiles far and away caused more trauma than guns. Much of this was inner-city, so its not like there weren't a few thousand illegal guns around. It was the "legal" cars that scared me.

Some people just have no clue. I can't understand why they don't get it.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #53 on:** October 09, 2002, 08:09:19 PM »

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Originally posted by DmdBT

What we need is a "noodle enlargement for weapons" program so those 3" donuted NRA members can quit trying to compensate and move on with their pathetic lives and our children can live without fear of getting shot walking into school.

Lonz

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)

Vulcan · « **Reply #54 on:** October 09, 2002, 08:29:12 PM »

How ya feel now son?

"A lack of fear of weapons shows what is often referred to as Darwinian Theory at Work" - Vulcan 2003.

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)

john9001 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 09, 2002, 08:44:08 PM »

but vulcan , you live in NZ , you are not allowed to have a 45 ,

YOU ARE UNDER ARREST, GET ON THE GROUND MOVE MOVE

DmdBT · « **Reply #56 on:** October 09, 2002, 10:31:55 PM »

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ahh the fishees

Dingbat · « **Reply #57 on:** October 10, 2002, 06:23:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
we wouldn't have the sniper problem in MD/DC area if we had stricter gun laws

roadkill

Ripsnort · « **Reply #58 on:** October 10, 2002, 07:45:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan

How ya feel now son?

"A lack of fear of weapons shows what is often referred to as Darwinian Theory at Work" - Vulcan 2003.

I've been shot at with a .22 rifle, and a .32 handgun, had a Ought-6 pulled on me, and had an unidentified handgun flashed at me from under a coat. Yet I still believe in the right to bear arms. Nothing will make you feel more helpless than being at the business end of a weapon, and nothing will inspire you more to be armed yourself after such an incident. Oops, add to that a Shotgun held at me as another guy beat the crap outta me (They needed that weapon, or I'd have whooped both their asses.)

H. Godwineson · « **Reply #59 on:** October 10, 2002, 07:57:09 AM »

The gun laws were pretty strict in Europe during the late 1930s and early 1940s. Any private citizen who didn't turn in their private firearms or was caught with one was arrested and shot.

Those were modern times, weren't they? Those people had absolutely no reason to need one. They should have obeyed the law and trusted their governments to respect their rights. Shouldn't they?

Regards, Shuckins