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« Reply #105 on: October 14, 2002, 03:36:34 PM »
NO!!  I AM THE NRA!











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« Reply #106 on: October 14, 2002, 03:46:37 PM »
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NO!!  I AM THE NRA!











With thanks to Hang.:D


I don't believe you.  Please demonstrate the secret handshake.
*offers hand*

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« Reply #107 on: October 14, 2002, 03:48:54 PM »
*promptly shoots funked's hand*

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« Reply #108 on: October 14, 2002, 03:54:35 PM »
Couldn't be NRA, you forgot to safety the weapon afterwards and scream "2ND THIS AMENDMENT" while firing.

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« Reply #109 on: October 14, 2002, 03:58:23 PM »
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*promptly shoots funked's hand*


Arrrrrrrrrrrrgh
You said NRA not IRA!

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« Reply #110 on: October 14, 2002, 09:02:37 PM »
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and if he couldn't get a gun, ya dont think he'd figured out another way to murder his ma-in-law??

:rolleyes:

yep, it was the damn guns fault, not the crack pot son-in-law


Anything is possible. If anything, this anecdote makes your point for you, Eagler. Cooling off periods don't always work.

Of course... you probably missed that since you would rather define my position for me.
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« Reply #111 on: October 15, 2002, 01:47:19 AM »
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his mom must be pretty tough if the only way to kill her was with a legal handgun.

leslie... the 2nd does not say "for the purpose of" anywhere... it is you who cannot read.   it says that a well regulated militia is needed.   It says that the peoples right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.   We are of course breaking that amendment.
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You're absolutely right Lazs.  Sorry for the misunderstanding. The first part of my post was a quote Texace made.  My follow up included a link on the 2nd Amendment, which explains in detail how constitutional scholars arrive at the conclusion that we, as citizens, do have the individual right to keep and bear arms.  

It seems the militia preface is a  prefactory clause to the 2nd Amendment's main, or operative clause.  The prefactory clause does not modify or limit the operative clause in any way, and could have been left out alltogether without changing the meaning.  It was included to simply emphasize that for a militia to be well regulated, citizens would need to be armed and ready for combat when needed.

It does not say or imply that only militias have the right to keep and bear arms.  Militias and the army are state entities, and as such, are treated separately from individual citizens in the Constitution.  As I pointed out before, powers are granted to the states, while rights are applied to individual citizens.  The Constitution is consistent in its wording concerning rights, and there is no reason to construe the meaning of the 2nd Amendment to be different from the other amendments.  In fact, only in recent history, has the meaning ever been questioned at all.

Once again, sorry for the misunderstanding.  Yes, I believe the 2nd Amendment prohibits Congress from infringing on citizens' rights to possess and use firearms.  The gun-control people realise this, and are attempting round about schemes to accomplish their goals, i.e. suing gun manufacturers.  Many states are now enacting legislation to curb bogus lawsuits.

One of the new tactics, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it in here yet, has to do with the Campaign Finance Reform issue.  One of the reforms proposed by Charles Schumer and company, has to do with making it illegal for an organization to run ads endorsing, or even mentioning positive attributes of a candidate for office, during an 8 week period prior to election time.  This is a blatant violation of the First Amendment.  Of course, the press, not being an organization, is allowed to endorse their candidates.

Just goes to show how far anti-freedom polititians are willing to go to achieve their goals.


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« Reply #112 on: October 15, 2002, 02:53:11 AM »
from what ive heard in the UK each time the police say something about him , ie he only works in one area (he moves) or hes not targeting children (he shoots a kid) the answer would seem to be get the police to go on TV and say 'the sniper obviously isnt targeting drug dealers and pimps' and you'll solve 2 crimes in one hit :D

simple eh? :D

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« Reply #113 on: October 15, 2002, 08:54:56 AM »
hazed is on to something... I would have a "profiler" get on and explain how the sniper is obviously gay and a betwetter... explain how his insecurities and ignorance make him so cowardly...  talk about how he was molested by men, probly family members as a child.   Tell people to be on the lookout for anyone who excessivly oicks his nose.

I think the same should be done with all the kids that do school shootings... put em up to ridicule instead of making em out to be what they want to be.... big bad boogymen.   The press created this guy.... they can kill off the next one before he starts.
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« Reply #114 on: October 15, 2002, 09:02:46 AM »
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who excessivly oicks his nose
OK.. I know this is just a typo... but I think "oicks" works here better than "picks" would have.

BTW lazs... what has gotten into you?  I've agreed with at least 3 of your posts this month. ;)

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« Reply #115 on: October 15, 2002, 09:09:00 AM »
I haven't changed but I eventually wear people down,.

I never learned how to type.
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« Reply #116 on: October 15, 2002, 09:43:44 AM »
I still maintain that the sniper is a terrorist, or a two man team of terrorists.  A driver/spotter and the shooter.  As evidence I submit the following:

1.  One shot kills, from long distance.

2.  A low report, high-velocity weapon.

3.  The ability to kill in a heavily populated area without bystanders being able to offer any positive leads.

4.  The attacks appear to be well planned.

Guys, please don't bore me with statements about the .223 having a loud report.  Military M-16s can be fitted with a flash suppressor that disperses the flash and the report, making location of the shooter extremely difficult.  The killer is obviously firing from some type of rest, because making these types of shots off-hand at long distance with such consistency are beyond the skill of the average marksman.

The authorities may be erring in looking for the stereotypical white male gun nut.  

Regards, Shuckins

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« Reply #117 on: October 15, 2002, 09:51:07 AM »
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I still maintain that the sniper is a terrorist, or a two man team of terrorists.  A driver/spotter and the shooter.  As evidence I submit the following:

1.  One shot kills, from long distance.

2.  A low report, high-velocity weapon.

3.  The ability to kill in a heavily populated area without bystanders being able to offer any positive leads.

4.  The attacks appear to be well planned.

Guys, please don't bore me with statements about the .223 having a loud report.  Military M-16s can be fitted with a flash suppressor that disperses the flash and the report, making location of the shooter extremely difficult.  The killer is obviously firing from some type of rest, because making these types of shots off-hand at long distance with such consistency are beyond the skill of the average marksman.

The authorities may be erring in looking for the stereotypical white male gun nut.  

Regards, Shuckins


thought about that this morning ...

this type crime seems like a real nut to crack, what if teams of these nutbags popped up at every major city in the US within a week and started terrorizing the public. Seems to me it'd have the desire effect. As this drags on, shows just how hard it is to catch such kooks in our free society. Duplication of such acts could really slow down our major cities.. Wouldn't take a bomb, local gunshow could get them what they need..
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« Reply #118 on: October 15, 2002, 10:05:58 AM »
Thrawn,

They don't NEED a gunshow if they are a terrorist team.  If they have been in the U.S. long enough to establish citizenship, a terrorist cell can purchase them legally anywhere.  The gun-show loophole is largely myth.  Illegal purchases of firearms will always be made, but most gun-show dealers are law-abiding citizens.  

Besides, even if gun-shows were banned and all legal sources dried up, they could SMUGGLE them in from outside the country.  They would be a good deal easier to bring in illegally than drugs, because they have no distinctive aroma for trained dogs to identify, and no way is the government going to try to x-ray every box and package that comes into the U.S.

Regards, Shuckins

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« Reply #119 on: October 15, 2002, 11:32:16 AM »
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I still maintain that the sniper is a terrorist, or a two man team of terrorists.  A driver/spotter and the shooter.  As evidence I submit the following:


What is a terrorist? Your definition please....
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