Author Topic: Inside the Mind of the Antigun Male: Psycho-Sexual Insecurities (Read 949 times)

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 14, 2002, 04:45:29 PM »

LOL
It is not like it can kill without a person using it.

Guns are not evil, they do not sprout feet and jump around shooting people.

Nor does a gun make people do evil things.

The heart of all evil is in a mans heart. someone who is going to kill will do it with or without a gun.

People do get murdered on your little island don't they?

Hey if a robber comes into your home can you defent yourself? What if you use a Cricet bat and beat him, and he dies? Do you go to Jail?

beet1e · « **Reply #31 on:** October 14, 2002, 05:24:11 PM »

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Nor does a gun make people do evil things.

The heart of all evil is in a mans heart. someone who is going to kill will do it with or without a gun.

Well, if he can kill without a gun, I guess we don't need guns.

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People do get murdered on your little island don't they?

Number of handgun deaths in Britain - 8
Number of handgun deaths in USA - 10,000+

Source - US Census.

I rest my case.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #32 on:** October 14, 2002, 05:35:26 PM »

"Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." ("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands.") -- (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

Looks like the debate has some history.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 14, 2002, 05:46:29 PM »

How many murdered to all causes..

lol

you can get somewhere on foot. Gues we do not need, trains or cars huh?

Nice argument lol lol.

You have no case, you have no argument, you do not live here and I could care less what you think of the U.S. and her gun owners. When you live here and can vote, you might matter.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #34 on:** October 15, 2002, 12:32:31 AM »

QUOTE Originally posted by Beet1e "A gun is not just another tool. It has one purpose. And one purpose only. It was specifically designed for killing, so don't blame the results on "people".

There is another use for a gun, and that is deterrance. It was the policy we all lived through during the cold war, and it has some justification. Also, I target shoot; pistol, shotgun and rifle.

If we outlaw things designed for killing, I guess the English longbow is out too.

One last quote:

Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
-- L. Neil Smith

john9001 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 15, 2002, 12:47:37 AM »

English longbow is baned in england....you could put your eye out

straffo · « **Reply #36 on:** October 15, 2002, 01:57:32 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I like guns in general, love shooting them, especially full auto SMG , in a safe controled environment but I have no need for them in my house right now.

Where do I fit in?

in France ?
I know it hurt

beet1e · « **Reply #37 on:** October 15, 2002, 03:00:51 AM »

GTO, you say it all in your sig.

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I also own guns! Oh no! I love the big scary guns! The ones that make anti gun people shiver in fear!

That's what it's about really. It has been found that those people who worship guns often have an inadequate personality. That was certainly the case with Michael Ryan, instigator of the Hungerford massacre in 1986. He was a nothing, nobody. The only way he could make his mark was with a gun. He killed 15 people and then did us all a favour by killing himself.

GTO, why do you need to make people shiver in fear? Which people? Why do you tell us in your sig.? Do you think any of us cares that you have a gun?

I would rather put something like I am qualified in CPR and could save someone's life...

...but you are inadequate, and need to make your mark with your gun ownership declaration. Your gun is impotent in your hands, and is probably nothing more than a much needed noodle extension. Oh, did I say "impotent"?

lazs2 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 15, 2002, 08:44:19 AM »

I think beetle and all of limeyland politics speak volumes about what the woman was talking about.

Do we really want to end up like..... the british?

If you don't own a gun then for gawds sake go out and get one or you will be.... british.

When I was over there I seen bobbies with sub guns. every post and wall had a handbill telling you to watch out for pickpockets (a sneaky timid crime). Smash and grab... (would explain why the socialists like to make the arenas so "strat" and boring)

guns are indeed a tool. their uses are defensive, offensive and recreational... going further they are masterpieces of the mechanical art and are, in many cases, art themselves. they are also living history.

shooting a garrand or a 1917 Smith is "immersive" to me.
lazs

H. Godwineson · « **Reply #39 on:** October 15, 2002, 09:56:15 AM »

There will always be those who prey on the innocent. It is much easier to do so when the innocent, unarmed, and complacent about that fact. Security is your own responsibility, not that of the police or the government. They CANNOT protect you all the time, wholly or in part.

One of the great truths of life is that, at some point during your existence, you might have to use deadly force to defend you or yours. Faced with multiple, murderous attackers, which would you rather have to defend yourself, a baseball bat, a knife, a sword, or a gun?

Regards, Shuckins

Fatty · « **Reply #40 on:** October 15, 2002, 10:04:17 AM »

Beetle I think a more important question is why you are so concerned that GTO be prepared to perform sexually?

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #41 on:** October 15, 2002, 10:04:38 AM »

Try living in a thugged out run down part of one of the worst cities in the US to live in (DC) and then tell me people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

That criminal coming through your window right now, the one with the gun pointed at your head.. yeah you take away the right for the people to own guns, he's still gonna have that gun, and it will still be loaded, and it will still be pointed at YOU.

You, OTOH, will have been forced to bring a knife to a gunfight because you lost your right to own a weapon.

When it comes down to it, I don't give a rat's bellybutton who's got a gun... so long as I got one too.
-SW

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 15, 2002, 10:14:03 AM »

LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 15, 2002, 10:28:50 AM »

OMG you are so funny.

I own guns, but they are not a major part of my life. I put that in my sig just to mess with you! The ultimate bate, you took it hook line and sinker.

For you to sit in England and judge me with your sad English standards is so funny, I had to stop reading your post, I couldn't breath.

My life is great! I have a great woman, a great job, and a great car, and it was not designed by Nazi's

I like guns, I target shoot. If you are sad enough to think you are better person then I am, based on that, your a sad little man.

I have never broken the law with my firearms. I have never had to use them on another person, the only thing they have ever damaged was paper targets. I did have a time when I felt I needed it to protect my home, since my next-door neighbor was dealing drugs and he had some very unsavory people coming around. He moved away and now my guns stay locked away only used when I want the fun and challenge of target shooting. I am grateful I did not have to use them to protect my family. I would have though, in a second.

I own a gun, that does not make me any more likely to hurt anyone. I have never broken a law other then speeding in my life.

Post some more and make me laugh, maybe Fatty is right, are you hitting on me?

Oh and it is so classic how you ignored my question: How many people where murdered in the UK, by all means?

I am now laughing at myself for even bothering with you, you are ignorant, but hell you are funny.

beet1e · « **Reply #44 on:** October 15, 2002, 01:06:46 PM »

Lazs! I've been a bit hard on you in the past, so I don't want to start another argument just yet.

GTO - Oh, OK!

You were winding me up. I don't know you well enough to have noticed any change in your sig. - was that a wind-up too? Better that you are a wind-up merchant than yet another gun toting American salamander. There are plenty of those, and the trouble is that we've had at least two copycat crimes over here as a result- Hungerford & Dunblane. Both of 'em caused by pathetic social misfits.

But I am concerned to know why so many Americans feel the need to have guns. I am well travelled in America - have lived and worked there and have probably been to more states than anyone else on this board. (spent the most time at Springfield,IL, Mt. Prospect,IL Concord,CA, Golden,CO & New York City - upper west side/85th St.) But I never found the need for a gun while I was there, not even in New York which, thanks to Rudi, is probably safer than London. At home, there's no need for a gun. I sleep easy at nights with the windows open, but I do not live in London.

Lazs (and others) have expressed that the USA is a better place to live than Europe - dare I say "pissant" countries, without re-opening old wounds? And yet you guys in the US are the ones who feel sufficiently insecure that you need guns, whereas we pissants do not. As Lazs knows, I always like to substantiate what I say, so here are a few quotes from Americans that make me glad to be a pissant. [list=1]
I did have a time when I felt I needed it to protect my home, since my next-door neighbor was dealing drugs and he had some very unsavory people coming around.
Try living in a thugged out run down part of one of the worst cities in the US to live in (DC) and then tell me people shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
That criminal coming through your window right now, the one with the gun pointed at your head.. yeah you take away the right for the people to own guns, he's still gonna have that gun, and it will still be loaded, and it will still be pointed at YOU.

What kind of neighbourhoods do you guys live in to need guns? I've seen Lazs's area from his car pics, and it looks OK - I wouldn't bother too much about a gun if I lived there. But when I look at quotes like those above, it makes me glad to be a PP - Provincial Pissant. Where I live is mostly tranquil. I live just a few minutes drive from this spot - hugely popular with Americans, judging from the number I run into.