Author Topic: Rank Whining :again: (Read 1462 times)

-ammo- · « **Reply #45 on:** October 13, 2002, 09:55:38 AM »

LOL rude:) Lazs is the altimeter police, you know that:)

lazs2 · « **Reply #46 on:** October 13, 2002, 09:58:13 AM »

sholz.... i did not use the word "unfair" even once. there is nothing unfair about coming in fast from up high after spending 10-20 minutes getting into position of being untouchable... I simply think it is wussy behavior and should not be rewarded. It takes less skill thatn surviving in a furball.

as DMF pointed out.. to get consistent, high Kills per hour you have to put yourself at risk. To get high K/d or even K/S all you have to do is be very very very patient and cowardly in a very fast plane. You need to rearm and refuel a lot. To have the second wave of every base attack be high, fast planes fighting for risk free scraps is what causes them to have low Kills per hour. they don't deserve anything more considering the lack of risk they are taking.

I don't care about score so much but realize that it can modify behavior to some extent. I don't want timidityu to be rewarded as it make s the game slow and boring.
lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #47 on:** October 13, 2002, 10:02:48 AM »

well rude... you are a weinie but for different reasons.... And I'm sick of you shouting at me!

Fact is... I was not talking about the 13th... they end up fighting. Ammo fights too. You guys have chosen planes that aren't that good in a dogfite and you still put yourselves at risk. There is a mustang squad tho that is very timid and never fights at risk and I think you both know who it is... hell... you guys probly chased em a lot more than I have. I pretty much ignore em.
lazs

Voss · « **Reply #48 on:** October 13, 2002, 01:50:07 PM »

Well, I finally got my K/T up in attack mode at the cost of bombing accuracy. Midnight, you don't have a problem here. You are WAY above average.

Now to work on fighter mode.

Sachs · « **Reply #49 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:22:05 PM »

What is this rank thing?

Airhead · « **Reply #50 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:55:42 PM »

And why does anybody care about it?

Shane · « **Reply #51 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:57:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Sachs
What is this rank thing?

something weenies use to try and make themselves look like a hotdog.

Midnight · « **Reply #52 on:** October 13, 2002, 05:05:53 PM »

Lazs... you really are thick headed. The 412th fights at risk a lot more than you think or would ever admit. Yeah.. just say it.. you're talking about the 412th with what you say, but your too timid to actually speak the words.

On a routine basis, the 412th with carry Ords to enemy bases BEHIND the front lines to strike the enemy at their homes, where they think they are safe. Striking the enemy where we are far from home and an easy escape.

Here is a film I made this morning. I would love to hear from the "macho" pilots out there, would this be considered 'at risk' flying, or does it only count if you are furballing at 200MPH in a turn fight at 1000 feet?

http://webpages.charter.net/davidlj/zips/isthistimid.zip

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Originally posted by lazs2
midnight.... perfect description of cowardly flying. Thanks.

DMF has summed it up but your flight description is a perfect description of the type of behavior I don't want to see rewarded... I see plenty of cowardly wusses up at 12+ K in mustangs and othe late war fast planes looking for someone who is busy actually fighting so that they can take advantage of plane choice in an other wise early/mid war arena. circling around trying to find someone who dioesnt see you should not be rewarded unduly. There is one whole squad of mustangs who make a habit of it.. everyone knows who they are.
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Originally posted by lazs2
sholz.... i did not use the word "unfair" even once. there is nothing unfair about coming in fast from up high after spending 10-20 minutes getting into position of being untouchable... I simply think it is wussy behavior and should not be rewarded. It takes less skill thatn surviving in a furball.

as DMF pointed out.. to get consistent, high Kills per hour you have to put yourself at risk. To get high K/d or even K/S all you have to do is be very very very patient and cowardly in a very fast plane. You need to rearm and refuel a lot. To have the second wave of every base attack be high, fast planes fighting for risk free scraps is what causes them to have low Kills per hour. they don't deserve anything more considering the lack of risk they are taking.

I don't care about score so much but realize that it can modify behavior to some extent. I don't want timidityu to be rewarded as it make s the game slow and boring.
lazs

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Originally posted by lazs2
well rude... you are a weinie but for different reasons.... And I'm sick of you shouting at me!

Fact is... I was not talking about the 13th... they end up fighting. Ammo fights too. You guys have chosen planes that aren't that good in a dogfite and you still put yourselves at risk. There is a mustang squad tho that is very timid and never fights at risk and I think you both know who it is... hell... you guys probly chased em a lot more than I have. I pretty much ignore em.
lazs

Voss · « **Reply #53 on:** October 13, 2002, 06:26:35 PM »

You fly the Mustang as it should be flown. You appear to have good SA as well.

No, it's not 'at risk' fighting, but I would not expect that out of a P51. When you do see it (what ever happened to RWY anyway?) it's a scarey sight and very unexpected.

Midnight, what these guys want you to do is break every rule you have set forth for flying the P51, and survive it anyway. That's the only way they'll ever have a chance of besting you in your plane. Then, they can strut and parade after they get you into a 30v1 fight and somehow put the extra bullet into you that claims the kill. It doesn't matter how amazing you are on the deck, or way up high, either. There's no convincing them that they're wrong.

BTW, nice back shooting on those first three planes. I love that!

Gryffin · « **Reply #54 on:** October 13, 2002, 06:56:31 PM »

The worst thing about kills-per-hour is that it punishes people who fly during off peak times, when there are only 60 people online.

Vulcan · « **Reply #55 on:** October 13, 2002, 07:09:05 PM »

You couldn't be more wrong...

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Originally posted by Airhead
2 to 1, 5 to 1, 10 to 1- in real life the only meaningful number to a pilot is the "1". They didn't get to respawn.

Vulcan · « **Reply #56 on:** October 13, 2002, 07:11:33 PM »

So what you're saying is not only do you guys run from fights but ya milkrunners as well ?

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Originally posted by Midnight
On a routine basis, the 412th with carry Ords to enemy bases BEHIND the front lines to strike the enemy at their homes, where they think they are safe. Striking the enemy where we are far from home and an easy escape.

poopster · « **Reply #57 on:** October 13, 2002, 07:33:56 PM »

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these guys want you to do is break every rule you have set forth for flying the P51

I guess you haven't seen Rude fly.

Midnight · « **Reply #58 on:** October 13, 2002, 08:00:27 PM »

I've seen rude fly.. so has Voss. We were both in the 13th with him for a little while.

Vulcan · « **Reply #59 on:** October 13, 2002, 09:17:03 PM »

I had a luvly 1 on 1 with Rude yesterday, we were going at it for quite some time, tiffie vs pony on the deck. He won