Author Topic: Can we do somthing about this? :-\ (Read 1485 times)

Heinkel · « **on:** October 13, 2002, 01:58:00 PM »

It's amazing what some people will do to aviod air combat, in an air combat game. This happens way way too much...anything that can be done?

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Heinkel · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:00:54 PM »

-edit- film got messed up somehow, the CV doesn't appear at first. Just watch the TG right as the nme lancs hit, and you will see the CV appear, then sink.

zipity · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:05:29 PM »

Is that the problem, bombers can sink the CV?

Heinkel · « **Reply #3 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:07:11 PM »

No, the Sucide dweebs. Now with 3 bombers, sinking a CV has become incredibly easy. Only takes a few minutes climb, and no skill required (as demonstrated by piolt in video.)

Innominate · « **Reply #4 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:10:23 PM »

yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaa! suicide lanc divebomb!

I hate to admit I agree on this though. Being able to suicide a buff formation into a CV(plus the fact that doing it from the level bombsight is infinitly harder) is kind of ridiculous. Ack should be toughened to stop these "drop bombs at last second before impact" attacks, and torpedos increased in damage. Perhaps the ack should be strong enough that if you get to the point where you're going to hit the water, it'll usually kill ya.

Then again, those buffs would have been patheticly easy to kill from the 5" guns.

Heinkel · « **Reply #5 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:15:28 PM »

Basically, most people in AH (with the except of some) will do anything to aviod air combat (pork fuel, kill FHs, suicide CV, ect, ect...) This is more or less another suicide dweeb whine, but I just can't understand why, when a good fight is developing between a CV and an airfeild, someone always has to come in and suicide the CV.

Innominate · « **Reply #6 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:18:37 PM »

AH is more than furballing. Base capture requires things like fields being porked, and CV's killed. Porking a fields fuel almost always ensures you an advantage, since it's hard to gain alt with only 25% fuel.

Also unfortunatly, suiciding is the best way to do this. Surviving it just means you need to spend that much time flying back to base. Short of perking jabos or 1000lb bombs, I can't see any good way to stop it.

Wotan · « **Reply #7 on:** October 13, 2002, 02:50:03 PM »

field capture is what perpetuates the suicidal nature of the main. It needs to be re thought out as a means to trigger a reset.

Too many gangbangs and suicidal raids to make the main less fun everyday. The other day me and afew squaddies upped to defend a base in which there was a minimum of 30 typh/51s and assorted others ib. We were out numbered 3 to 1 easy.

When it ended all the enemy were dead, sounds like great defending by us, nope none us even got a kill. They all dove straight in on the field and died. Most of everything was still up even the ack. They repeated this 3 times before I logged.

Field capture with 200 people in the main was ok. Large raids were 15 folks. I used love to up to catch bombers ib to hq.

Field capture with 500 folks is tired and played out.

Tumor · « **Reply #8 on:** October 13, 2002, 04:02:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Heinkel
No, the Sucide dweebs. Now with 3 bombers, sinking a CV has become incredibly easy. Only takes a few minutes climb, and no skill required (as demonstrated by piolt in video.)

Flying with "no skill" involved has become an avenue of profit for HTC... without it I'm sure most of the point-click-kill types would leave AH.

john9001 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 13, 2002, 05:18:25 PM »

wotan , did you get their tail numbers? i would report them to HTC for unfair play.

SunKing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 13, 2002, 05:46:48 PM »

If AH is a game then you gotta let em game the game.. If AH is a simulation then that behavior shouldn't be allowed.

Voss · « **Reply #11 on:** October 13, 2002, 05:48:54 PM »

Look at it this way; when they suicide the CV they are killing their ranking for whichever category they're flying in. Worse, it is so easy to egg a CV or a cruiser without getting killed, so they're making themselves look like dweebs (which they are). I prefer dive bombing, but with a fighter. The cruiser can be killed with just one fighter and two 1k eggs. Four fighters with the same loadout could kill a CV. The only real risk in doing it right is getting hit by the 5" guns.

The damage you do, for each death, is a deciding factor in the attack category, so they're 'killing themselves' in more ways then one in doing the suicide runs.

Oh, well, it just makes it easier for the wiser veterans to get rank.

Wotan · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2002, 06:12:50 PM »

wtf you talking john?

it aint about being fair its about unfun gameplay. Its that simple.

Again today at a48 25 + cons in 2 waves all die in ack. Not only did they kill themselves they ran from a fight. They came from a8. thats 2 sectors away. Just to auger.

Field capture, or capture the flag is tired out and lame. Especially the way it plays out with 450 people.

There have been numerous suggestions that reflect a different style of main gameplay.

john9001 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2002, 06:58:13 PM »

wotan ...what are you telling us for ?? we can't change the game. yo gota problem , instead of beechn to us, tell high tech, or are you trying to gain support for your point of view?

Virage · « **Reply #14 on:** October 13, 2002, 07:26:32 PM »

If only HTC would model a defensive cap so the Furball/Ack Generators would stay afloat longer.