Are you skilled - or just gaming the game?

[Voss]

Hmmm, my Typhoon has suffered a lot of radiator hits, and one hit oil leaks from ack. Decreasing prop rpm helps stretch the glide. Yes, even when your engine quits.

[Vulcan]

Easy, you dive on a con, quickly get suckered into blowing your E, point your nose at the closest field and run.

You'll never get better if you run from every 1 on 1 where you don't have an alt advantage.

Whos gaming the game then?

Originally posted by Midnight
Vulcan, how can we be ack runners and alt-monkeys at the same time? Did someone put AAA at 20K and not tell me? And why should I fight 1-v-1 CO E? I'm not good at it, and it always turns into a turn fight, which I am even worse at.

Anyway, I just want to know who 'games the game'. My guess is that the ones of you answering with the smart-ass comments do it the most.

[Regurge]

Try this Midnight.

Get a plane up offline and pull throttle to idle. Turn on auto-speed trim. Turn on some updraft wind (~45mph works well). The wind is so your decent rate wont be off the gauge.

After the climb gauge stabilizes turn off the engine and watch the climb gauge. When I do that, the needle doesnt move at all. If it was causing more drag, the auto-trim would pitch the plane down to maintain speed and the the descent rate would increase.

[Dinger]

Uh purpose stalling:
folks, when a guy's being shot at, he'll try anything.
If you bother to read narrative accounts, there are plenty of cases of pilots (even aces) spinning to foil an attack run.

[SKurj]

re #2...  There has been (may still be) a graphic bug which will make it appear as if your opponent's engine maybe stopped.

Ran into this one when, in the midst of a furball, Drex in an F6 found his way to the 6 of my HurriC.  I tried vertical scissors, and could not force the overshoot, yet when I looked back to see him at the top of his ermm zooms, it appeared as though his prop was stopped.  After I ermm got a new plane, I asked him if he had ever stopped his engine.. He said no.  I can't recall if this occured in the current version of AH or not.  I have a feeling it was the last version prior.
This was not the only case I experienced seeing other players with apparently stopped or windmilling props.

A feathered prop.. reduces drag..  In many cases your drag will be reduced with a stopped engine(in AH)

re #1 The press E 3 times has been around since the Zero was released at least!!  What was that ? version 1.05?  I guess I may have used this trick all of a half a dozen times when in a hurry to get up before the vulchers descend.

re#3  I save my head pos as high as possible but as far back as possible in the hopes of increasing my perceived peripheral vision to help with close deflection shots.  I dunno why anyone would save a head position as close to the dash as possible.... makes no sense.

my say...


SKurj

[poopster]

Originally posted by Midnight
And why should I fight 1-v-1 CO E? I'm not good at it, and it always turns into a turn fight, which I am even worse at

Do you mean to say that, your cruising along at 3 bills and come across a Pony co-alt inbound...YOU DON'T TAKE IT ????????

BRAHAHAHAHAHAA !!!

LOL I couldn't look myself in the mirror..

My God man, your missing out on the BEST that this sim or any other sim has to offer.

Step up man, take the plunge, stretch yourself....

Good one vs.ones are remembered for YEARS.

I can give you a breakdown of great fights over the last four years. They stay in the brain. Win OR lose.

Can't recall my "score" on those particular tours....



Score, no matter how "good"  just lasts till the end of the tour, good fights are KEEPERS....

indulge..

..you'll remember every one of them

..and have to buy bigger underwear to hold "them"..

or you will feel constrained

[Wotan]

wrong eskimo

test it yourself

cutting your eng doesnt feather the prop you bleed more e then simply manipulating your throttle.

This is proven fact, lotsa of guys. Midnights posts originated in another where someone asks "Whats wrong will killing your Eng in a fight"

When you turn your enfg off your prop still wing mills for a bit giving you an "air break".

It works people do it, they admit they do it. So to discount something that is as "proven" out of hand shows that you are just attacking his position without verifying what he is saying.

As for the rest of this thread who cares. I just wanted to set the record straight on the eng chop trick.

It works.

[-ammo-]

Originally posted by Regurge
1. Engine start sequence lasts about 10 seconds. I don't see how getting in the air 10 sec sooner will get you any extra kills.

2. I just tested this offline. Killing your engine gives you exactly the same glide rate as leaving it at idle. So killing it in flight won't slow you any faster than idle throttle.

Actually the advantage gained by killing your engine while pulling ACM in AH is not  causing your enemy to overshoot. What it does gain you is the ability to turn harder if timed correctly.  Your AC WILLl turn better with the engine cut.  What I have seen is guys constantly cutting and restarting the engine in stall fights. It was amazingly effective  in the fight between two P-47's that I witnessed.

[Eagler]

8. pop chute without ejecting creating an air anchor causing an immediate overshoot

as much as you try to think/pretend otherwise, your still just playing a game with ppl 8 to 80

[hblair]

Does anyone consider a twisty-stick rudder gamey?

[Yeager]

props in AH generate more drag with the engine off than with the engine running at idle.
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In my AH experience a dead prop bleeds off substantially less  airspeed than the idle prop. I base this on my observation that deadstick landing approaches never lose the equal amount of speed as idle engine approaches...unless I have misunderstood the above statement.  Deadsticks are always hotter for me, never seem to lose speed.  Glide path is extended.

I too have heard things about some odd engine management practices.  As long as code is not altered anything goes.

Just enjoy the game and dont get caught up in egos.  Hard to do but the best outcome is usually avaliable.

[eddiek]

...........'cause usually my opponent kills it for me!  
THEN he overshoots or flies on by..........

[Shane]

you're all lamers and killed!!!

huh?  gamers or skilled?  errr, sorry, i must've misread the question.

my answer still stands tho'

[Dead Man Flying]

I like to think I'm skilled at gaming the game.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Widewing]

Originally posted by eskimo2
#2 is stupid.  No smart gamer whould chop the throttle to induce drag because it also feathers the prop.  Better just to haul back on the throttle.


eskimo

How does it feather the prop? I'm not aware of any auto-feather feature.

My regards,

Widewing