Author Topic: F***ing Chechens (Read 1249 times)

Soviet · « **on:** October 23, 2002, 11:20:40 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/23/russia.siege/index.html

I hope Grozny get's nuked. Bastards

Vulcan · « **Reply #1 on:** October 23, 2002, 11:30:56 PM »

After all the moaning and squeaking you did here last year about the Chechens, it'll be interesting to see if peoples attitudes in other countries have changed.

Time to throw the "I told you so" card on the table Soviet.

-sudz- · « **Reply #2 on:** October 24, 2002, 12:14:16 AM »

People keep making the mistake that attitudes last forever. If Soviet or his countrymen had different attitudes about the Chechens than currently (with the terrorists holding over 700 hostages), then that should indicate to you that the situation has changed.

We Americans used to support Iraq and Saddam against Iran, but now the situation is different. Things change.

Vulcan - there are people's lives at stake. Please don't use Soviet's, and the Russian people's, pain as a platform to further your own track record of "correct" analysis. Even if you're right, it would be far better for you and your audience to empathize rather than critique on soooo may different levels.

I wish the format of the BBS would allow me to mellow the harshness of the above criticism - as if we were in a bar and had the mellow buffer of a few beers - but I gotta say, that response was cold.

To Soviet - I hope this thing works out with the Russians firmly on top. I can imagine ideal scenarios and I hope you and yours don't suffer the same as we did.

-sudz

PS The American revolution was accomplished without holding hostages.

Vulcan · « **Reply #3 on:** October 24, 2002, 03:42:33 AM »

I think you're reading me wrong here. Soviet, in the past, has been flamed for his views on Chechen terrorists (I'm sure it was Soviet) and the way the world condemned Russia for the way of dealing with them.

My point was, I wonder if those people who called his terrorists 'freedom fighters' at that time will have changed their minds now that terrorism has hit so many place free from it before.

Maybe you shouldn't overanalyze me so much sudz, you reading a hell of a lot into a simple statement pointing out Soviet was right 12 months ago.

Staga · « **Reply #4 on:** October 24, 2002, 04:09:32 AM »

Guess it's time to delete another Chechenian city from the map by using heavy artillery and bombers.

Boroda · « **Reply #5 on:** October 24, 2002, 04:21:31 AM »

I am too emotional now for any comments.

As I said many times before - Stalin found the only possible solution for Chechen problem in 1944.

One of our regiment's pilots, Elly Estel, has a friend there, he's a sound engineer in Nord-Ost show.

As they said on TV - Georgiy Vasilyev, the great Russian bard is there too... His partner, Alexey Ivaschenko managed to escape, but broke his leg.

People said that this night Kremlin and other government buildings was blacked out, like in 1941.

I watched non-stop TV coverage last night, and all I want to say is that TV reporters and journalists must be hanged on street lampposts.

Hey, where are that bloody EC officials moaning about "human rights" now? Where the diddly are US Department of State bastards who invited Chechen representatives for "consultations"?

Listening to Ivaschenko and Vasilyev's "Rain over Issyk-Kul" for 12th time...

All we will get is the restricted passport regime, soldiers in subway cars and armour in the streets. After each accident they start to show useless activity.

rogwar · « **Reply #6 on:** October 24, 2002, 07:00:39 AM »

I have seen some of the public as well as "not so public" propaganda videos of chechens murdering Rusian soldiers. I don't think much of a group that would do such for a propaganda video.

Ants get in your house, you don't try to make a peace accord. You go get the bug spray.

Hey Ruskies, me and my family will be praying for a positive outcome.

Krusher · « **Reply #7 on:** October 24, 2002, 07:27:00 AM »

Didnt theses murdering bastards plant a tube of radioactive waste in a park in Moscow? There point was it could have been a dirty bomb of they wanted.

miko2d · « **Reply #8 on:** October 24, 2002, 07:34:08 AM »

Ain't it wonderfull to live in a multicultural society?
We need more of that in US, don't we?

miko

28sweep · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2002, 07:46:57 AM »

My grandmother grew up in the Caucasus and I remember-as a boy-her telling me that the Chechens where nothing but thieves and murders. This was long before the current conflict. I hope that Russia teams up w/ their Orthodox brothers in the region and helps settle some "old scores." There are a lot of angry Christians in that region that would really welcome the help. The Caucasus where the site of our centuries first genocide-when over 1 million Armenians where systematically exterminated and many more enslaved by their Moslem neighbors. With all of the vital oil resources in the region-Russia should seize all of the Caucasus and expel all Moslem's from that area…………

Boroda · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2002, 07:59:26 AM »

The more I think about possible scenario, the more sad I get

First: assault, that will result in at least 200 deaths...

Second: our beloved authorities letthem out and give them whatever they ask for: money, buses, planes.

What people here say: Europeans forced us to "suspend" all death penalties, so the good idea is to send them to Turkmenistan or another Moslim state where they will be executed in public, like in that Tom Clancy's book...

diddly. In 1999 Russian army waited for 2 weeks to let all "civilians" get out of Grozniy before the massive assault according to regulations, with artillery and aviation support. And all that european amazinhunks like that toejamheah lord judd are still speaking about atrosities and "human rights" for bloody bastards! And bloody Rumsfeld says something about souverign Georgia, protecting terrorist bases! You call in "war against terrorism"?! When Russian customs check "humanitarian aid" to Chechnya delivered from the US, that turns out to be US field uniforms and equipment?!

Did your media tell you when in 1995 Chechen gangs captured maternity home in Budennovsk? I mean the hospital for pregnant women and new-born babies? IMNSHO that only episode was enough to understand who they are.

I was surprised that Leonid, who is interested in what happens in Russia, didn't know about Moscow apartment bombings. He didn't know that Chechens blew up 4 apartment houses at night, full of sleeping people!

I wonder if we are still strong enough to move all population of Chechnya in one night, like on Feb, 23, 1944, but this time not to Kazakhstan (Kazakhs will not be happy), but to Novaya Zemlya?...

Now terrorists say they want right-wing (I mean - liberal) politicians, and say they'll release some hostages for them. I think it's a good deal, but only if they'll execute them in front of TV cameras. Something like 50 hostages for a parliament memeber or 20 for a "liberal, pro-Western" journalist is enough.

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #11 on:** October 24, 2002, 08:02:08 AM »

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Hey, where are that bloody EC officials moaning about "human rights" now? Where the diddly are US Department of State bastards who invited Chechen representatives for "consultations"?

Last I heard Russia was a democratic state and a world player. Therefore it must abide by International Agreements on human rights. The Chechan terrorists are, by their definition, outlaws. Therefore their mere existance is illegal nevermind any acts they perpetrate.

Boroda · « **Reply #12 on:** October 24, 2002, 08:05:29 AM »

28sweep, the problem is that US and international oil monopolies will support Azerbaijan and other Moslim countries, and US openly supports Georgian regime that hosts and feeds Chechen terrorists. It's BIG money, just like the planned war against Iraq. Noone cares about terrorists, everyone just counts money.

Even many Moslim nations from Dagestan are eager to eliminate the Chechen threat, and supported Russian army in 1999 when Chechens invaded Botlikh district in Dagestan...

Boroda · « **Reply #13 on:** October 24, 2002, 08:13:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding (Work)

Last I heard Russia was a democratic state and a world player. Therefore it must abide by International Agreements on human rights. The Chechan terrorists are, by their definition, outlaws. Therefore their mere existance is illegal nevermind any acts they perpetrate.

So, please, make your lord Judd and other amazinhunks STFU. "Uh-oh, poor, poor Chechens! Bloody Russians used heavy artillery against thier cities!" - or should we send thousands of our boys to death in a bayonet attack against their fortified positions?!

"Uh-oh, poor, poor Chechen refugees! They are starving and freezing!" - while in fact they are parasites who prefer to be fed and dressed by Russians, and refuse to return to Chechnya, and even refuse to clean their own trash - Russians must do everything for them, cleaning isn't a job for proud Chechen heroes! I wish that any aid to them must be stopped, we need that money for homeless children.

Scot · « **Reply #14 on:** October 24, 2002, 08:20:09 AM »

It's time the West (US and Europe) stand by Russia to support their right to defend and protect their people from terroism. This muslim fundamentalism has nothing to due with religion or the rights of an oppressed segment of the population.

We should stop worring about Saddam, and really see where the evil exsists in this world.