F***ing Chechens

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Originally posted by DmdBT
Lets see here, we have dead Muslims and dead Russians, what's the problem again?

Definitely a win-win situation.

Lonz

I guess I'll be the first.

diddly YOU, amazinhunk.

[Thud]

Well, from your previous postings I already understood that you aren't exactly the brightest of lights. more of a broken bulb to be honest and therefore I'll try to explain...again.

I wrote 'unprecedented' and that single word sparked of another incoherent ranting speech from you. Let's say you put aside your emotional ties to certain events that came up in this discussion and about which you obviously feel very strongly and look at the facts. For example, regarding scale the most 'significant': the Turkish genocide, the more reliable estimates vary between just below one till about 1,5 million casualties including those slain before the seizure of power in 1908 and in the 90's of the 19th century. Hardly comparable to the approx. 55 million of WWII, eh?

And if you should decide to do something entirely new, live an experience you've never had, you could go to the local library and apply for membership. Then you could borrow an English dictionary and look up the meaning of 'unprecedented scale', then you would notice that, combining what I wrote up here and what I cited below, you were not reading properly, let alone making any sense in the reply.

You stated:" Unprecedented scale by your Left-wing Euro-centered education. You must be referring to WWI maybe? or WWII ?? Hitler was not the first to perpetrate genocide my friend. He was just the most efficient. The Turks murdered millions of Greeks and Armenians in the late 19th early 20th century. God-they still are finding skulls in Turkey today...millions and millions. Did this count in your Unprecedented scale."

Taking the numerical difference between 55 and 1,5 mil into account, the former was indeed a genocide on an unprecedented scale because regarding the scale it was unprecedented, i.e. never preceded by an equivalent. Now you understand what unprecedented scale means?

As for your moving plea for my forefathers who defended Europe against the Muslims, in those times Europe was a retarded, barbaric society compared to the Eastern and Arabian worlds. Both in the scienctific and social sense. And those 'thugs' who invaded us were the same who defended their homes from other thugs who held crusades to take their land, or were the pillaging and murdering crusaders any better than the Turks doing the same?  Even someone as biased and narrow-minded as yourself should recognize that there are always two sides to a story and the truth is inevitably in or near the middle.

BTW, 'Left-wing' in your first sentence, you sure keep the money coming. LOL, Simpleton

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Lonz,

That may be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen in here. Easily one of the most tasteless. How sad for you.

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evil dmbt.. just evil

To throw my .2 perks in...

I believe that islam is a religion that works like the well-known pyramid scams. It keeps certain few up top controlling the vast majority of the population, both economically, militarily and most powerful of all, their beliefs.

And its not a new idea either. Christianity had the same system going on. Worked damn well all throught the Middle Ages, with the church on top.

However, somewhere along the way the church lost its power over the masses. What did it? M.Luther? Byzantine Rome? Henry the 8th? Industrial Revolution? The Age of Reason? Its populace spreading across the globe so fast it became impossible to keep a tight grip? Or maybe the church's own hipocrisy and double standards fell on their heads?

Who knows! But the fact remains, once the church was swept off the podium of power, the civilizations once under their power made a U-Turn from barbarism/feudalism into the highway of progress and enlightment and became what they are today.

However, Islam is still stuck way back in the middle ages. It keeps its own population oppressed through BELIEF , reinforced by social structures (mostly dictated again, by belief) and rewards those the brute use of force to protect such a system (yada yada you know, die in battle for allah and go to heaven with 70 virgins or something like that). And its still like that.

A people who once lead the enlightened world (inventors of the zero and algebra!) are now nothing more than throwbacks in all areas except having the priviledge of sitting on oil.

Sad.

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Malaysia,

Look at the economy, culture and accomplishments of this Muslim country and then tell me again how Islam is in the middle ages.

Dam! You guys just insist on generalizing a billion people into your little pigeonhole. Wake up and smell a book for krise sakes.

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Thud,

I thought that you Dutch where more progressive than that…I mean I hear so much about your educational system over-there-but obviously you didn’t learn a damn thing.  You have a case against you teachers…you should sue them for not doing their job.  I’ll be your star witness in court.  I have a couple points to make:

1) With regard to the crimes of the Ottoman Empire.  First of all, your at least right about the numbers: 1.5 million is a about right for the Armenian Genocide.  What about the Greek numbers?  What about the Serbs, Bulgarians, Hungarians, hell all of East Europe.  Give me the dead, wounded, displaced…enslaved etc…  Please dig up those numbers.  Oh ya, and if the Ottomans wouldn’t have been stopped at Vienna in 1529…you my friend would be praying 5 times a day to Allah.  You’re a complete moron if you think the Ottomans were defending themselves.  That was a barbaric-ultra-aggressive empire.  55 million dead in WWII was not unprecedented my friend.

2) Please comment on the activities of Mohammed when he and his Armies emerged from Arabia in 600 AD.  Here is the fundamental deference between Islam and Christianity: Islam was spread almost entirely through warfare.  In fact, Mohammed actively led armies into battle-Jesus did not.  Mohammed was, in fact, wounded in battle.  I’m no expert in the Bible but I don’t recall Jesus leading Army’s into battle.  It is impossible to count the millions upon millions of lives that were destroyed as a result of this.  WWII was unprecedented…I doubt it.

3) Please comment on Islam’s failure to co-exist with other religions peacefully where Islam is the dominant religion.  Saudi Arabia (the only country on Earth where there is no official Church and where 2 Filipino men were recently be-headed for setting-up a Christmas-Mass), Egypt, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Sudan, Turkey, etc…etc..etc.. the list goes on and on.  In all of these countries-persecution of Christians is nothing short of sport.  Thousands and Thousands are killed yearly in violence against Christians.  Please comment on this.  

Islam is a religion of peace-hardly.  Even you revisionist-liberal nut’s can’t hide from that.