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Offline gofaster

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« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2002, 10:42:00 AM »
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You want to smoke while you're pregnant?  Go right ahead.  It's not my business.  


So who's looking out for the rights of the fetus?  Maybe we should abolish the child welfare programs while we're at it.:mad:
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Offline Wlfgng

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« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2002, 10:51:52 AM »
the parent is/should be  looking out for the fetus.

You missed the point.  or just want to disagree.
anyone with half a brain can figure it out.

it's your right to do what you want.. just don't force it on me just because you want to smoke.

I'm not saying don't smoke.  just be responsible about it.

the comparison to chlorine is right on.. you realize it's one of the components of cigarette smoke right?
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« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2002, 11:07:00 AM »
Chlorine is also a component of salt.

I do agree with most of what you're saying, Wlfgang.  I just feel that it isn't my right, or your right, to infringe upon the rights of others.  Smoke?  Be considerate of those around you.  That's all.  I know that if I were to light up, the first thing I'd ask would be, "Anyone mind if I smoke?" A single "Yes, I do," and I wouldn't smoke.

A little common courtesy would go a long way....
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« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2002, 11:08:04 AM »
gofaster, the mother should be looking out for the rights of the fetus.
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« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2002, 11:22:38 AM »
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A little common courtesy would go a long way....


I can totally agree with that !

IMO that's what it's all about in the first place.  The law wouldn't even be necessary if more people thought like this.

It's a sad fact that in my experience, most of the smokers that visit our ski area don't have any courtesy whatsoever.  In fact they make it a point to be obnoxious.  Often they are trying to prove some point when, in fact, their behavior shows what morons they are.

I don't have a problem with smokers per se..
just the amazinhunks that smoke.
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« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2002, 02:30:59 PM »
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gofaster, the mother should be looking out for the rights of the fetus.


Check it out and let me know which mother you're talking about.

http://www.itsmyidea.com/sherwin/
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« Reply #81 on: October 29, 2002, 02:33:02 PM »
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it's your right to do what you want.. just don't force it on me just because you want to smoke.
 


Exactly!  The person that is doing the action - the smoking - should be responsible for his actions and its effects on others.  Its a basic component of tort law.  I'd like to see the amendment passed.  I think it'd be a great public service.
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« Reply #82 on: October 29, 2002, 02:33:41 PM »
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gofaster, the mother should be looking out for the rights of the fetus.


True. But she should not be legally compelled to do so.
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« Reply #83 on: October 29, 2002, 02:37:00 PM »
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True. But she should not be legally compelled to do so.


Skating real close to a Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice argument here.  The basic idea is that laws exist to protect the general welfare of the public.  Ensuring citizen saftey by restricting smoking in enclosed public places would fall within that duty that government owes to its citizens.
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« Reply #84 on: October 29, 2002, 02:51:20 PM »
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Skating real close to a Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice argument here.  The basic idea is that laws exist to protect the general welfare of the public.  Ensuring citizen saftey by restricting smoking in enclosed public places would fall within that duty that government owes to its citizens.


Hell... I thought I skated right over the top of it... :D
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« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2002, 06:58:06 PM »
I'm not a smoker but I do sympathise. Second hand smoke? Hell theres more crap sitting in rush hour traffic on the motoryway.

I work in IT, 50% of my customers are caffeine freaks and smokers. I can put up with it. I know they'll die from lung/throat/whatever cancer. I know they fund our medical system with their ciggy taxes. And I know thats a crapload more stuff out there that will kill me before second hand smoke does.

AND...

... I too have been victimized, I had an official complaint laid against me at my last job, for excessive smelly flatulance. DON'T LAFF! I'm whoopee serious! I was told to "take it outside next time". Can you imagine that? All you smokers standing outside, puffing away, and me with ya riiiiiiiiiiiipping away too?


(no I am serious - this chick really did make a complaint to my boss)
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« Reply #86 on: October 30, 2002, 12:13:28 AM »
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I'm not a smoker but I do sympathise. Second hand smoke? Hell theres more crap sitting in rush hour traffic on the motoryway.

I work in IT, 50% of my customers are caffeine freaks and smokers. I can put up with it. I know they'll die from lung/throat/whatever cancer. I know they fund our medical system with their ciggy taxes. And I know thats a crapload more stuff out there that will kill me before second hand smoke does.

AND...

... I too have been victimized, I had an official complaint laid against me at my last job, for excessive smelly flatulance. DON'T LAFF! I'm whoopee serious! I was told to "take it outside next time". Can you imagine that? All you smokers standing outside, puffing away, and me with ya riiiiiiiiiiiipping away too?


(no I am serious - this chick really did make a complaint to my boss)




I will never recover from this post Vulcan.  EVER.
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« Reply #87 on: October 30, 2002, 06:03:32 AM »
Passive smoking cause cancer, maybe, maybe not,
BUT the smoke stinks like hell ! and thats killing enough! ;)
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« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2002, 09:16:34 AM »
it's noxious gas, period.


same for the cigarettes!   :eek:
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« Reply #89 on: October 30, 2002, 09:19:50 AM »
You know Vulcan.... I thought I smelled something too.
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