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Cabby44 · « **Reply #60 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:37:49 PM »

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"You have no idea about my political affiliations or ideological leanings, and if you guessed you probably would guess incorrectly. "

I'll make it as clear as i can for you, as i know "brilliant", discriminating people such as yourself have trouble understanding plain speech:

I don't give a hoot in hell what your "politcal affiliations" are. Didn't "guess" 'em either. Though your strong reaction is kind of a "red flag", you might say. But i gave it about as much thought as you gave any of your "insightful", and deeply-felt "opinions" i bothered to read here.

Oh, one other thing. I think the term "Orwellian Left" fits perfectly. If you don't like it, tough toejam. Clear enough??

C.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #61 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:53:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Cabby44
I'll make it as clear as i can for you, as i know "brilliant", discriminating people such as yourself have trouble understanding plain speech:

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Plain speech? More like inane platitudes, as usual. I wonder if you've had an original thought in your life.

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I don't give a hoot in hell what your "politcal affiliations" are. Didn't "guess" 'em either. Though your strong reaction is kind of a "red flag", you might say. But i gave it about as much thought as you gave any of your "insightful", and deeply-felt "opinions" i bothered to read here.

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You should care what my political affiliations are, since you attacked me based on an obvious misperception about them. And, well, that just makes you look dumb(er). That you wouldn't care regardless doesn't surprise me.

My strong reaction has more to do with your obviously simple world view than it has to do with your political or ideological leanings. I know many brilliant and well-spoken conservatives who don't resort to painting those with whom they disagree with a broad and inappropriate brush. You remind me of Boroda in your incessant need to belittle the people rather than the ideas you oppose, Comrade Cabby.

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Oh, one other thing. I think the term "Orwellian Left" fits perfectly. If you don't like it, tough toejam. Clear enough??

Oh, that's an argument winner right there. LOL! Do you know what Orwell's political affiliation was? Do you know what 1984 was about? How do you reconcile the two?

-- Todd/Leviathn

Sandman · « **Reply #62 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:06:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler

call it what you want ...

you end up with the same thing in the trash can

Life is hard.

If it helps you sleep... consider it all part of God's plan.

Airhead · « **Reply #63 on:** November 04, 2002, 09:56:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Todd/Leviathn you Trotskyite traitor!

If you ever spoke the truth, you would choke on its unfamiliarity!

I can't believe someone who used to be so intelligent has become such a totally misguided, unpatriotic traitor to the motherland!

You evil attempt to undermine and destroy our perfect society has been noted and will be dealt with, I assure you! We will bury you! Literally!

(So, how'd I do? )

You did good, Toad, but you need to use more caps and explination points. And angry faces- you forgot the angry faces!! AGGGHHHH I HATE it when you forget the angry faces!!!

mietla · « **Reply #64 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:10:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM

Yadda.. yadda yadda... You want to polarize the issue using your terms. We aren't playing.

WRONG. This is a personal decision. I believe it is a woman's right to do whatever she likes with her body... because it's HER body. It's not mine. It's not yours. Ultimate authority over one's body belongs to the person.

Hence... pro-choice... If you're a woman who is against abortion, you can exist in a pro-choice world.

You just made my point. You were offered probably the most honest definition of the debate...

pro-abortion vs. anti-abortion

both sides know exactly what the final result of the abortion is. If you feel so strongly about your position, you should be able to admit that you are for abortion being legal (with its all consequences) and availabe to every woman for the asking.

Obviously you feel unconfortable with calling things by their names, thus the "pro-choice" and "fetus is not a human being" escape.

midnight Target · « **Reply #65 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:20:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Cabby44
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I'll make it as clear as i can for you, as i know "brilliant", discriminating people such as yourself have trouble understanding plain speech:

I don't give a hoot in hell what your "politcal affiliations" are. Didn't "guess" 'em either. Though your strong reaction is kind of a "red flag", you might say. But i gave it about as much thought as you gave any of your "insightful", and deeply-felt "opinions" i bothered to read here.

Oh, one other thing. I think the term "Orwellian Left" fits perfectly. If you don't like it, tough toejam. Clear enough??

C.

Did anyone else picture Dr. Evil doing the LASER BEAM speech?

Sandman · « **Reply #66 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:27:57 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla

You just made my point. You were offered probably the most honest definition of the debate...

pro-abortion vs. anti-abortion

both sides know exactly what the final result of the abortion is. If you feel so strongly about your position, you should be able to admit that you are for abortion being legal (with its all consequences) and availabe to every woman for the asking.

Obviously you feel unconfortable with calling things by their names, thus the "pro-choice" and "fetus is not a human being" escape.

Like I said... I don't know anyone that is pro-abortion so the terms of your argument are not applicable.

I absolutely support a woman's right to choose abortion. This is not the same thing as saying I'm pro-abortion.

It means it's none of my business. It means that I don't want the government telling anyone what they can or cannot do with their own body.

Thrawn · « **Reply #67 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:30:43 PM »

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Originally posted by mietla

You just made my point. You were offered probably the most honest definition of the debate...

pro-abortion vs. anti-abortion

*Sigh*

No it's not. Pro-abortion implies that someone is for abortions, just for the sake of abortion, and that's pretty stupid as that's not what the pro-choice people fight for. What pro-choice people fight for is the right of the woman to decide wether or not she want's an abortion.

To use your logic, pro-choice and anti-choice would be just as good. Because hey, we both no that libs want to give woman choice and conservatives want to take that away. Leave it to a conservative to try and change the labels when they don't suit him.

midnight Target · « **Reply #68 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:33:03 PM »

If women were in charge, the Abortion issue would n't be an issue.

AKIron · « **Reply #69 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:39:53 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
If women were in charge, the Abortion issue would n't be an issue.

What makes you think they're not?

Thrawn · « **Reply #70 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:43:01 PM »

And on a more personal note. Where the hell do you guys get off trying to inforce your will on my wifes body?

Cripes, that's the problem with conservatives, always trying meddle in other peoples affairs.

You don't want government intervention unless it suits you. What hypocracy.

Sandman · « **Reply #71 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:43:39 PM »

Shush... I don't think they know it yet...

mietla · « **Reply #72 on:** November 04, 2002, 10:57:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn

Pro-abortion implies that someone is for abortions, just for the sake of abortion, and that's pretty stupid as that's not what the pro-choice people fight for. What pro-choice people fight for is the right of the woman to decide wether or not she want's an abortion.

That is just a window dressing. I don't want to get into the abortion discussion itself. All I'm trying to do, is to point out that the pro-abortion forces want to make their position more palatable by redefining terms, shifting the focus of a debate and omitting a significant portion of their agenda.

You say, let a woman "choose". In reality, you want much more. You want abortion to be not only legal, but also:

- available to any woman at any time for any (or no) reason
- to be free (thus forcing abortion oponents to finance it)
- to be advertised/encouraged by the doctors
- to be available to minors without their parents consent (or even knowledge)
- made available and free for women in other countries (paid of course by the US taxpayer)
- available to the woman even AFTER pregnacy ends (late term abortion).

In short, the pro-abortion stance is to use it as a birth control.

I can respect your position, but be honest and call things by their names.

mietla · « **Reply #73 on:** November 04, 2002, 11:03:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
And on a more personal note. Where the hell do you guys get off trying to inforce your will on my wifes body?

The twist is that although a woman's body is clearly involved and significantly affected, it is not her life that ends.

Again, I understand your position, but don't hide behind the "choice" and/or "keep the government out of my life" facade.

mietla · « **Reply #74 on:** November 04, 2002, 11:05:03 PM »

never mind. I clicked Quote button instead of Edit.