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« on: November 12, 2002, 11:56:07 AM »
... for more information, contact the Lord's Resistance Army, northern territories, Uganda.  These women have been given a good, solid Christian upbringing based on the Ten Commandments, as interpreted by modern-day prophet Joseph Kony, and have been trained to do the Lord's work.  

Concerned about quality?  Don't worry.  Kony must be ok, because he's Christian and we all know that Christians are peaceful people that respect other people's human rights.

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Escaped Ugandan Sex Slaves Battle Inner Demons
Mon Nov 11, 8:59 AM ET
By Matthew Green, Reuters

GULU, Uganda (Reuters) - Rebels stormed into Hellen's village and clubbed her father to death before dragging her into the Ugandan bush for training as a child soldier.

For the 11-year-old girl, that was just Day One of her ordeal as slave "wife" in the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), one of Africa's most fearsome rebel groups.


Kidnapped by the raiders who murdered her father, she was forced to stand in a row with 18 other abducted girls as a rebel commander picked her out as his mate. Rape consummated the union. Hellen had yet to reach puberty.


Now 17, she cradles his baby in her arms.


"I love the child, but I hate the father," says Hellen, speaking in a rehabilitation center in the northern town of Gulu. "If he comes here he won't touch my baby," she said, gazing intently at her son Justin suckling on her breast.


Hellen was released in June after nearly seven years of captivity, along with about 100 mothers and babies freed by the rebels during a forced march to escape a Ugandan army offensive.


"They beat us so much the skin peeled off our backs," she said softly, as Justin clasped at her gray and white dress.


The freed mothers were a lucky exception. Since June, rebels have embarked on their worst spree of abductions for years, seizing an estimated 4,000 children, some as young as 9.


Charities in Gulu say an average of at least 10 children are taken every day to serve the LRA, whose leader Joseph Kony is said to be a former altar boy who takes orders from a Holy Spirit and a host of "angels."


HERDED INTO BATTLE


Northern Uganda's eerie landscape of abandoned villages, long grass and misty hills is full of parents waiting in vain for their sons and daughters to come home.

Charities in Gulu estimate that Kony has seized at least 20,000 boys and girls during his 16-year-old rebellion, which has killed hundreds of people and forced half a million to flee.

Abductees are rapidly trained to shoot, then herded into battle against the army's tanks and helicopter gunships.

Anyone caught trying to escape is clubbed to death. Sometimes they have to dig their own graves first. Other children are forced to participate in the killings to instill discipline, according to the testimonies of escapees.

Food is scarce. Children eat wild plants. Most are used as slave laborers. Some are killed as "sorcerers."

For girls, it's worse.

"Once you are given to a man, whether he is young or old, you can't say no," said Esther, 29, who escaped in September after eight years at an LRA base in neighboring Sudan, which says it has now cut off support for the LRA.

Esther said she had been one of 12 wives serving one commander.

"Once the person wants to have sex with you, you have to do it -- if you try to refuse they can beat you with machetes," she said, telling how she carried her baby, Brenda, on a two-week flight through the bush to safety after an army attack.

TEN COMMANDMENTS

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has promised to crush the rebels by the end of February, but even if his "Iron Fist" offensive succeeds where others failed, healing the children of war will take years.

The LRA has created a lost generation of teen-agers who can barely read but know how to fire an AK-47 rifle, fueling a vicious circle of war and poverty gripping the north.

Human rights groups say northern discontent is rooted in discrimination under British colonial rule, ethnic massacres under former military ruler Idi Amin, and a feeling of neglect by the government, but Kony seems to have no clear agenda.

The self-styled prophet has in the past said he wanted to overthrow Museveni and rule according to the Biblical Ten Commandments. But to northerners, his motives are a mystery.

For those lucky enough to escape or be rescued by the army, the brainwashing by the LRA is hard to cast aside.

Children at rehabilitation centers look deceptively normal. They play cards, swing their legs from bunk begs and line up for lunch with green and red bowls, some laughing with visitors.

But many suffer mood swings and nightmares, shunning their peers. Some believe that Kony can still read their thoughts.

"Sometimes I dream that they have abducted me again," said Christopher Ojok, 14, who was held for almost two years but escaped in August during a gun battle between the army and rebels. "Sometimes I wake up startled. I think they've caught me," he said, matter-of-factly relating his ordeal.

The abducted boys and girls have grown up starved of love and can hardly speak about the past. Counselors say they must attempt the seemingly impossible -- to forgive their captors.

"When they know you love them they begin to trust you and they can talk to you in detail," said Florence Lakor, who counsels escapees. "Once they open up, the healing can begin."

Even if the children can confront their inner demons, their neighbors may not want them, sometimes seeing them as outcasts.

For the girls, whom some men consider as used goods, finding a husband may be difficult. The centers do not test for HIV (news - web sites)-AIDS (news - web sites), but counselors say some girls must be infected.

Hellen, who preferred not be identified by her second name, is hoping to learn tailoring, before heading back to her village, where the rebels may again come knocking.

"I'm scared, but there's nowhere else to go," she said.

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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2002, 12:42:04 PM »
They were doing this to each other before the Europeans got there and started right back up after they left.  Funny how it's all still the "white man's fault".  If they would all just follow Bobby Mugabe's enlightened example of how to run your country, they'd be ok.

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2002, 12:47:23 PM »
I was hoping someone would respond to that posting like you did, just to save me the trouble of saying it myself.  I wonder if those victims will be clamouring for reparations in 140 years.

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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2002, 12:53:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Dune
They were doing this to each other before the Europeans got there and started right back up after they left.  Funny how it's all still the "white man's fault".  If they would all just follow Bobby Mugabe's enlightened example of how to run your country, they'd be ok.

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Who exactly is this "THEY" you speak of Mr. Dune?

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2002, 01:07:07 PM »
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Who exactly is this "THEY" you speak of Mr. Dune?


Africans.  Specifically, the northern Africans kidnapping the tribal peoples of the interior.  The only difference between history and modern events is that there is no longer an export market overseas.

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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2002, 01:09:22 PM »
By "They" I mean the Africans themselves.

It's too easy to say the inter-tribal warfare (Hutus, etc) is a result of gerrymandering done by the Colonial powers and their leaving a power vacuum when they left.  But the majority of these genocides are the result of generation-old score settling.  These tribes have been fighting each other for centuries.  There are even reports that Mugabe's actions in Zimbabwe are a result of his attempts to "get back" at members of the Mantebele tribe.

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2002, 01:19:33 PM »
It's certainly not the only country, and it's certainly nothing new.

You know how they grow cows in little places in order to be butchered for meat?

I'm actually surprised they don't have farms like that for women somewhere.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2002, 01:33:51 PM »
"Concerned about quality? Don't worry. Kony must be ok, because he's Christian and we all know that Christians are peaceful people that respect other people's human rights.
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Two possible motives for this post.
1. to show that the current war on terror is unfairly targeted at muslims.
or 2
 to imply that the US since it invaded Afganistan should invade uganda, or would if uganda was muslim.

As to item 1 ,dont worry gofaster. If he or any other christian commits an act of terror on the scale of 9/11. he will be delt with too.

as to number 2. Mogidishu is a great discusion point for anyone that thinks that the evil white man can save the africans from themselves.

It seems you are sugesting that the US or its allies invade uganda to help these people

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2002, 01:43:31 PM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
"Two possible motives for this post.
1. to show that the current war on terror is unfairly targeted at muslims.
or 2
 to imply that the US since it invaded Afganistan should invade uganda, or would if uganda was muslim.

As to item 1 ,dont worry gofaster. If he or any other christian commits an act of terror on the scale of 9/11. he will be delt with too.

as to number 2. Mogidishu is a great discusion point for anyone that thinks that the evil white man can save the africans from themselves.

It seems you are sugesting that the US or its allies invade uganda to help these people


No, just the same old Religion bashing that insecure people must post to feel better about their non-beliefs. Same ol' same ol'. I've yet to see a Christian start a post bashing Atheists on any BBS that I've visited...why is that? ;)

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2002, 01:44:22 PM »
Man...I SOOO missunderstood the topic of this post.

Oh well...
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2002, 01:59:44 PM »
Nice try gofaster...

This one is the best you can come up with?  Maybe you should do more reading up on Ireland if you want to get into the atrocities done in the name of the church.  That should help you for this century.  Of course, you're going to really have to resort to the middle ages for any serious history to attempt to make your point.

Of course, some would only have to refer to China, Russia, Cambodia and Vietnam to show what kind of atrocities can be done in the name of atheism or the need for no religion.

A zealot is a zealot is a zeolot.  Religion has little to do with it.

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2002, 02:01:44 PM »
There are bad people everywhere I don't see any evidence that it's one religion, one race, one anything..

human rights violations of all kinds go on every day in many countries.

Here's just another one going on.

 People have so much intelligence and now some great technologies.

It's too bad they use it to find new and exciting ways to be perverse and kill each other and destroy everything they touch.  da's
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2002, 02:07:20 PM »
You don't really think this has anything to do with Christianity?
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2002, 02:11:14 PM »
Actually, it was to show how easily a religion can be distorted to suit political goals.  A lot of folks started painting Muslims as terror-loving extremists.  My goal for the post was to show that Christians can be painted the same way.

As for religion-bashing, I haven't seen anybody come to my door trying to tell me to give up religion, but I have been called upon by several different Christian organizations to adopt religion; not just Jehovah's Witnesses, but Baptists and Presbyterians as well.

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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2002, 02:13:26 PM »
You're reading this board, aren't you? Do you really want to see examples of people coming into your house and telling you how bad religion is? How about... your post?