Stem celly goodness.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Nash
I wonder what the US medical lobby is gonna be whisperin' in the government's ear when people start flying to Europe for treatment.

huge money on one side <-----------> conservative morals on the other

That's a hell of a dilemma shaping up

Two words... Tobacco industry.


Now... if our govt could just realize how lucrative it could be to tax pot.

[weazel]

I wonder what the US medical lobby is gonna be whisperin' in the government's ear when people start flying to Europe for treatment.

huge money on one side <-----------> conservative morals on the other

That's a hell of a dilemma shaping up

Because after all...the basis of "conservatism" is all about money.

Pathetic really...........

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Fetus aren't people.

...yet

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by weazel
I wonder what the US medical lobby is gonna be whisperin' in the government's ear when people start flying to Europe for treatment.

huge money on one side <-----------> conservative morals on the other

That's a hell of a dilemma shaping up

Because after all...the basis of "conservatism" is all about money.

Pathetic really...........

Uh..according to the "graph", Conservative morals is the absolute opposite to huge money. It would be fun to see you place Liberal morals in there somewhere though...Ooops, thats right, there is no such thing as liberal morals now is there.

[-tronski-]

I think all hospitals and medical services should be closed in the world...that way if God wants you to live... you will

 Tronsky

[weazel]

Bleating about money on this board?



The so called "conservatives"....thats who.

Uh..according to the "graph", Conservative morals is the absolute opposite to huge money. It would be fun to see you place Liberal morals in there somewhere though...Ooops, thats right, there is no such thing as liberal morals now is there.

Sure there are, you only have to pull your head out of the sand to see them.

If it weren't for the so called "liberals" you despise so much you wouldn't have a pot to piss in.....or the right to complain about it.

[davidpt40]

I do believe killing babies is a bit much to get stem cells.  The are other ways to get stem cells.  Also, by the time that healthy individuals, like myself, need stem cell therapy, the fatties, druggies, and alchys will be dead.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by weazel
Sure there are, you only have to pull your head out of the sand to see them.

If it weren't for the so called "liberals" you despise so much you wouldn't have a pot to piss in.....or the right to complain about it.

Exactly what are the liberal "morals"?

Except "do not bother about morals or ethics, just do whatever you want" or "have sex with whatever you want whenever you want as long as it is consentual and you are using a condom"?

Now you can explain to me how liberals gave me my toilet (or my "pot to piss in" as you so eloquently put it).

[funkedup]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Exactly what are the liberal "morals"?

Except "do not bother about morals or ethics, just do whatever you want" or "have sex with whatever you want whenever you want as long as it is consentual and you are using a condom"?

You forgot about murdering innocent unborn children while allowing proven murderers to live.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by funkedup
You forgot about murdering innocent unborn children while allowing proven murderers to live.

Yeah, or if you want to put a crucifix in a glass of piss and broadcast the image on tv it is ok because it's "art"...but if someone in a tv show should happen to call a colored person anything other than "African american" they are racist facist pigs.

[Hortlund]

Ooo ooo I have another one.

The "Cristian right" is responsible for all evils in the world, but it is wrong to say "moslem terrorist" because Islam is a religion of peace.

[Dowding (Work)]

'Proven' is the operative word there, funked. 'Proven' under a demonstrably fallible system is not 'proven' at all. There are no absolutes in this world, other than those halucinated into existance by people who need a crutch to get through the day.

Safe consensual sex between two adults is nothing to be ashamed about, Hortlund. It happens everyday, to some of us at least.

The abolition of slavery was a 'liberal' policy.

The extension of voting rights to men of any class was a 'liberal' policy.

The extension of voting rights to women was a 'liberal' policy.

The abolition of racial segregation was a 'liberal' policy.

The "Cristian right" is responsible for all evils in the world, but it is wrong to say "moslem terrorist" because Islam is a religion of peace.

I disagree. As long as you realise that extremism is baggage of all the major religions and you also label abortion doctor murderers as terrorists then you will get no argument from me regarding 'moslem terrorists'. Let's also remember the Catholic Priests that actually led IRA cells which carried out atrocities in NI.

Every cult has its share of nutcases.

[funkedup]

Yeah and look where it got us.  

[Dowding (Work)]

Heh.

[Nash]

"Uh..according to the "graph", Conservative morals is the absolute opposite to huge money." - Hortlund

Nope. Just showing two worlds colliding. It aint no weird secret that Republicans court big business. And it also isn't a secret that Republicans court... erhm... religeous values (don't know how to put that). Now when one is at odds with the other, as in this case, there is a bit of a dillema.... which I was just trying to point out.

Is it somehow wrong of me to say that the medical establishment and the lobbying groups that go hand in hand with it don't want a say in the stem cell debate? Would it be wrong to say the the Christians/Catholics/etc. also don't also want a say? Can we safely surmise that those two groups aren't exactly going to be seeing eye to eye on it?

No, no, and yes. So take whatever argument you were trying to make elsewhere, or if you're dead set on confronting me with it at least try to fashion one that makes sense.

"It would be fun to see you place Liberal morals in there somewhere though...Ooops, thats right, there is no such thing as liberal morals now is there. " - Hortlund

Yer just trying to get a rise... well done. And whatever. No comment.