Author Topic: Largest patch ever? (Read 4708 times)

Wotan · « **Reply #45 on:** December 17, 2002, 02:49:17 AM »

beyond all the fanboi'isms and starfish kissin overall AG is right......

Its a real shame.....

-duma- · « **Reply #46 on:** December 17, 2002, 03:16:40 AM »

Actually I think HTC should be flattered by this post. It's ultimate proof that they've spoilt AH players so rotten that come christmas they expect their ten shiny new birds on the runway. Name any other game that recieves the same amount of bugfixing and expansion as AH in as short a time...

Now, that said, fix the Hurri IID!

Angus · « **Reply #47 on:** December 17, 2002, 05:19:03 AM »

Hehe, Really good point Duma.
We are spoiled allright.
Honestly, I doubt there is any other internet game/sim that takes the community feedback as seriously as AH.

Apar, here's one for you:
Why would HTC need to rework (from scratch) all the flight models (aerodynamics). With new engines in other sims, the FM's surely didn't get much better (i.e. Warbirds)
Isn't the FM a code, weawed with data and algorythms. Why would you have to start from scratch there?

Swoop · « **Reply #48 on:** December 17, 2002, 05:28:46 AM »

Oh ferchristsakes, dont be so surprised. With the player base this game has of course someone was gonna whine.

Many people wont notice everything that went into this update, blimey most of em wont have even read the readme. A lot of people (ok prolly mainly the younger ones) will see this update as 3 new toys and some flashy lights when you pull the trigger......and then of course will wonder what HTC has been playing at for the last 170 odd days. It looks to the general plebs that the longest awaited update in AH history contains the fewest new toys.

The only thing I'm wondering is why on earth HTC modeled an early stuka without the cannons and not the cool one with the siren but now that every flight involves watching cons fly around in real smooth ACM the wondering about the stuka is quickly replaced with just general wonder and awe.

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #49 on:** December 17, 2002, 05:48:06 AM »

Swoop - this version of the Stuka is the best of both worlds; because it doesn't have the 20mm it can be used in early war scenarios and it can easily be turned into the 37mm cannon armed, tank-busting G-1 with a simple modification. It's a versatile addition.

straffo · « **Reply #50 on:** December 17, 2002, 05:50:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Vermillion
Jeez, I guess I'm a whiner too. Because I expected more than this from a 6 month production schedule since the last release. I don't think its the downfall of HTC or any crap like that. But I'm certainly disappointed.

The new splash screen is nice, the artwork on the Ju87 and other new aircraft are nice, especially considering the limit of 256x256 textures, but what else? I at least expected some new terrains, but when I logged in, it was the same old same old Mindinao.

*sigh* I'm definitely a jaded crusty old veteran. No arguements. But I couldn't let Sachs get hammered alone for saying something that I'm sure many others are feeling as well

I guess thath the CTD tracking consumed a lot of ressources.

btw this single line :

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Made improvements to the network smoothing code and raised the packet rate for very close targets.

is GREAT !

Pepe · « **Reply #51 on:** December 17, 2002, 06:11:46 AM »

If my memory is not totally gone (which is possible, btw), I think a nice big number of us were on agreement that we rather like ironing the game than new planes. I'm still of that opinion and, thus, I don't think this is a bad update, especially if I bear in mind that they are just fixing the Mission Arena.

I would be betting that Misision Arena is quite complicated issue, and a major quantum leap, so I'm just glad they just throw us this bone meanwhile. And I don't want to be understood like I'm saying this is a minor update. Maybe it took too long, but I do like the net code thinghy a lot. Same the perk/numbers balancing issue. Let alone Tiger

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All in all, I understand some frustration because of the apparent lack of relevance in new features. I just disagree on this, as I thing major things are addressed, and delay on 1.11 could be because of Mission Arena.

Happy 1.11 camper (so far) here

Cheers,

Wotan · « **Reply #52 on:** December 17, 2002, 06:29:21 AM »

The stuka version is the correct one as it opens it to multiple useage in different events.

Ofcourse folks will give an opinion about whats going on. Ag's "whine" is no where near the level of those members of the "whine police".

Someone has to given the fan bois something to shake their pom poms at.

Whipe the brown of your chins if ya dont like the whines hell dont read it.

Dowding (Work) · « **Reply #53 on:** December 17, 2002, 06:40:56 AM »

Perhaps it's the way the post is written, rather than the content.

Wotan · « **Reply #54 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:19:22 AM »

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That is what I see of it. Sorry, but I was expecting more. 1.10 version 8. 3 worthless planes and a tank that will become the envy of the attacking aircraft. Stuka I can see as usable, the others hanger queens to say the least. Can't wait for another 6 months to go by for another incredible patch. Venting and pissed.

yeah I see your. Thats terrible of AG and I sure havent read anything worse......

Face it guys were waiting their guns cocked to call out whiner. No matter how bad of an update it could have been.

Are CMs still getting comped accounts? maybe that was it?

Turbot · « **Reply #55 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:29:45 AM »

Some people may have missed these things from the online talk in the arena:

Hitech fixed the field guns already, was implemented with an arena reset.

The new map hitech said is "not quite ready yet", though every one of the current maps we do have has been changed. There was some talk about the pizza map now being a new version as well - (but I did not understand what they meant).

Though I myself have not tried the stuka, tiger, or 163 yet, it did seem like people were having alot of fun.

gofaster · « **Reply #56 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:34:28 AM »

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Originally posted by hazed-
...I must admit i was a lil' disapointed at the aircraft line up but only because i have been spoiled in the past by quite large numbers of new planes and vehicles.The only thing that was suprising for me was the lack of sherman M4.I thought that was coming for sure? Dunno where i got that idea but i thought id read it on here.

I've been stumping for the Sherman M4 since the last release, hoping to round out the Allied gv set so that future historical scenarios could include a ground component (El Alemain, Cassino, D-Day, The Battle of the Bulge, and Sicily come to mind). I'm glad we got the Stuka - its been long overdue. I'm also glad we got the Tiger 1 so that I can start burning off my gv perk points. Hopefully in the next release we'll get a German half-track of some sort with 20mm guns, or something equal to the M16.

Now that we got my Stuka, I think its time to stump for the Ki-84 Hayate to round out the Japanese planeset, and the Dewoitine D520 to get a French plane for early war scenarios.

NoBaddy · « **Reply #57 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:39:25 AM »

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Originally posted by hazed-

I must admit i was a lil' disapointed at the aircraft line up but only because i have been spoiled in the past by quite large numbers of new planes and vehicles.The only thing that was suprising for me was the lack of sherman M4.

Hazed...to be sure, HTC has spoiled many of its users. BTW pitiful whiney folk...the last update was 3 months ago.....not 6

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lazs2 · « **Reply #58 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:51:13 AM »

I don't care if sachs whines but it looks like he got it backwards.. I asked for a 163 to kill milkrunning fluffs allmost a year ago.. I think they will be a worthy addition and actually be of some use... the stuka... LOL what a turd. It was a turd in the war and even worse in the MA.. we won't even see one in the arena a month from now except for maybe some of the more "ridgid" LW squads using em. Besides... ag flys a D9 so his views are not important to the majority of players. He is playing a different game than most of the rest.
lazs

Wotan · « **Reply #59 on:** December 17, 2002, 08:54:14 AM »

umm check all his scores laz he flies about everyplane and I bet his kills per time would make you blush.

But you will then say he just vulches in his d9 when hes not at 20k feet and running, right?