Tigers in action

[Kerago]

The main trouble is not being able to see the tracers...as a noob driving a panzer (and I'm still a noob) I got nailed repeatedly by someone on a flak gun. Not being able to see the tracer, I had no idea where the shots were coming from and didn't realise for a few deaths and after having it explained to me that it was probably manned acks, I assumed there was a tank somewhere that I just couldn't see.

If you can see ack tracers from planes, why can't you see them from GV's?

[Blue Mako]

Originally posted by Booky

Originally posted by Blue Mako
I hear pings when manable acks hit me, I think you are mistaken about not hearing it.

I was just going on what jamusta said.  I never get close enough to live mannable ack guns to hear pings in a gv, I always kill them first...

[GRUNHERZ]

Vulcan why not? Well there was more than one Tiger I that came back from battle with well over 200 hits from every Soviet weapon from the 14.5mm AT rifle to 76mm of T34 and was not destroyed. So that pretty much rules out melting the armor plate or as you said stressing it with heat.

Many Russian KV-1 and KV-2 also had similar experiences vs German 37mm AP and 75mm HE in 1941.


Guys you are just inventing bizzare excuses (yet again) for flawed armor programing (yet again) , we should simply ask that it be fixed.

[Pongo]

Originally posted by eagl
A maverick missile with the "small" 150ish lb warhead pooks a small hole in a T-72 and vaporizes everything inside.  A maverick with the "large" 300 lb warhead may knock the turret off of a T-72.  A 500lb bomb direct hit, even one that doesn't fuze properly, will typically blow a T-72 turret 100 ft away from the body and may also flip the body upside down.  A 2000lb bomb direct hit tends to leave very little that is recognizable as a tank.

Near misses may cause a functional kill and the shock/blast may kill or disable the crew, but it takes a rather close "miss" to kill a modern tank with even a 2000lb bomb.  If just about any bomb hits it though, even a concrete-filled training bomb, it's toast.  I have no idea how that translates to WWII tanks but I thought you guys might find it interesting

I think thats an exact parable for what whould happen to a medium or better tank. They were killed by hitting them with bombs..not by missing them. they were killed by top attacks only by very heavy(37mm) cannon attacks. Or vary rarley by rockets.
The game as it is now is very much like killing tanks would have been from the air..except they have no place to hide.
Rudel says he hit directly infront/under t34s with bombs befor he got his 37mm...He says he would flip them over that way I believe..

[jamusta]

To answer your question I did here 3 pings but I was aways out and didnt expect it to be manned ack. I was busy trying to find another tank. I have been wondering if manned ack is more lethal than unmanned ack? I have driven on a field and have taken numerous hits from ack in a pnzr or ostie. My turret may be disabled but I was always able to take out the ack unless track was hit.

But like i said I was just complimenting him on great shooting. We laughed and I kept trying to get close to him. It was fun and I will destroy him the next time we meet.

[Urchin]

You don't always hear pings when you get hit by a manned ack.  

I'm not sure why to be honest with you, but I've been killed at extreme ranges (3,500+ yards) by manned ack in a Panzer IV.. I heard 1 ping then I was in the tower.  After asking the gentleman about a hundred times how he managed to kill me with a manned ack, he said he must have hit me 200 time.. I never heard a ping until the one that sent me to the tower.

[bomber6969]

The other night I was in a panzer shooting at a tiger...to my surprise the 75mm ap round bounced off every time... they say the tiger can be killed

[jamusta]

A panzr can kill a Tiger done it lots of times. It takes a while cus most shot will simply bounce off into the air. Always try to get side or rear shot and always aim for turret first. I never fire at a tiger first hoping he doesnt see me so i can close gap. Hopefully I can get about 2k in range then open fire. If u miss chances are u will die.

[BenDover]

I've managed to sneak up behind tigers in a panzer lots of times in my gv combat arena, I'll see if i have a film i can dig up

[maxtor]

side shot from the old tank on tiger at close range =  tiger dead, almost always one shot.

[bomber6969]

Ive killed plentie of tigers...just not with a panzer, ive killed with hurri 2c's and d's and ju87s but not easily

btw...maxtor, how many times have you been able to get right next to a tiger in the MA?

[BenDover]

Is it just me, or does the tigers turret seems a little weak?

Everytime i hit a tiger its turret goes poof first

[jamusta]

I get close by simply allowing them to engage friendlies and flanking or by using terrain to my advantage. To go H2H with tiger while in a pnzr is suicide. I also wait in ambush.

[senna]

In Panzer elite the rear of most tanks were the most vulnerable. Woudlnt this be the same in AH? Not much tank experience in AH.

[bomber6969]

jamusta, that tactic of letting your team mates get shot is called chumming. its not a very practical way to kill them and looses the whole sense of teamwork.