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Offline Monark

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Got the USB/Gameport converter.
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2003, 02:48:39 PM »
So I ran out to RadioShack today, the converter was 15$, It did get ride of the Stick Spikes I was having huge problems with. Of coarse now my Hatswitch doesnt work...
This could be a problem with WinXP because the converter is designed with Win98 in mind, but I really dont know.
It did in fact get ride of the Stick Spiking, so if that is a problem, it is worth a shot.

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Offline MaddogJoe

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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2003, 03:55:46 PM »
I Have all CH stuff.... stick, throttle, and pedals. I've never set my stick up with a hat. I've always used the CH stick programmer and set those switches for the views individually. Works great !

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Offline CurtissP-6EHawk

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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2003, 06:27:53 PM »
Monark I went and looked and the guy told me I did not need it. He said it was converting a dialog plug into a USB plug. He said my joystick was already USB.

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I have never been able to get my CH programer to work :-(

Offline MaddogJoe

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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2003, 06:38:51 PM »
Is it a problem with the program...CH programmer.... or you can't figure out how to do it?

My email is  maddogjoe@charter.net send me a note and maybe I can help ya.

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Offline JBA

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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2003, 02:52:09 PM »
Have you read HT help pages for joysticks..
Joystick scaling
The joystick scaling sliders allow you to change the response curve of your joystick.  Each slider represents a percentage of your joystick's actual movement versus how much input you want the game to read.  Each slider represents 10% of your joystick's travel and are labeled at the top.  If all sliders are maxed out, this will give you a linear response curve.  It is recommended that you avoid setups that make large jumps in adjacent columns.  For example, if the rudder axis is selected and you move the 50% slider halfway down, when you deflect your rudder pedals 50% of their travel, your rudder will only move 25%.
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Offline Swoop73

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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2003, 09:35:03 AM »
Hey Hawk...Looks like you have dirty pots. You can take them apart and clean them to remove the dirt. If you don't feel comfortable doing this, get new pots from the manufacturer.

Also...Can't belive you don't have rudder pedals. With your talent....you really need some. Either buy a set of CH's or if you want, I'll gladly donate my Thrustmaster pedals to you...No charge. They're functional, but I broke the centering spring in a dogfight a few weeks back...You may not even miss this, but you can get a spring from TM. If you have 150.00....Order a set of Simped Vario Pro pedals from Germany...I just got some and they're literally the best pedals in the World, with a Hall effect sensor instead of a pot, and Ball bearing center shaft. They'll last forever, and change your life. Just what we need....You getting better  :)
Let me know if you want my TM pedals.

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Offline CurtissP-6EHawk

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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2003, 01:13:17 PM »
Hey swoop, I have CH rudder peds and a CH throttle OTW :D  Its time for me to perform or shut up. No more excuses. I also have ordered two new pots. What do I clean these in, contact cleaner?
How much and where can I order the Simped Vario Pro pedals from Germany?

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2003, 02:07:14 PM »
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Originally posted by CurtissP-6EHawk
Hey swoop, I have CH rudder peds and a CH throttle OTW :D  Its time for me to perform or shut up. No more excuses. I also have ordered two new pots. What do I clean these in, contact cleaner?
How much and where can I order the Simped Vario Pro pedals from Germany?


Good,

I was scanning over this thread and was going to tell you to get new pots.  I replace mine every 6 to 9 months.  Cleaning them helps, but they will go to crap very soon.  New pots make your stick perform like it did when it was brand new.  Don't clean them, just install, calibrate and play.

eskimo

Offline CurtissP-6EHawk

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2003, 04:00:04 PM »
Hey eskimo, I realy think I had at least one bad one when I got the stick new. I was upset at spending $150 (I think) for a stick that didnt perform much different than a $40 stick. I spent the cash for durability more than anything else.

Thanks Guys!

oh yeah, sorry about yelling at ya last night about the CV. I saw thiers comming, odee changed the course, I changed it back then you changed it again. I sank one but couldnt hit the other one and it finally diappeared off over the horizon. If it had not been for them overlooking our VH, we may have lost that field...sometimes I forget its just a game ;)

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Offline CurtissP-6EHawk

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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2003, 04:41:29 PM »
I have tried all settings given by you guys and nothing helps.

I did notice that the bounce is from pitch only and roll does not have the bounce in it. This leads me to believe it has something to do with gyroscopic precession aspect design of the game.

I can apply back pressure then release it. As long as I have some sort of aft pressure on the stick, the nose will gradually return close to level flight. As soon as I return the stick to center, it bounces. Same for foward stick movement. When I begain to return the stick to center the nose begains to com up toward level, but If I return the stick to center before the "Trim" can catch up with it, it bounces. It does this with or without combat trim. However, Combat trim does help.

Offline BigGun

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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2003, 06:43:34 PM »
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Originally posted by F4UDOA
I had some really wierd stick problems for a while that did not resolve with any number of changes. Until...

I removed and re-installed

1. Sound card drivers

2. Video card drivers

3. Direct-X8<==I think this is the one that fixed it. But do all of this in safe mode.

Then recalibrate your joystick in windows.

I thought I had a bad joystick too until I started reloading drivers because my DX8 crashed. I even called the tech support for my JS and they said it was bad pots too.

Trust me, try it and save yourself some time. I also had a ctd problem that I fixed by reloading Windows. Go figure.

BTW, you should post this in the tech support forum.



Did you try this advice along with the scaling advice???

Offline CurtissP-6EHawk

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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2003, 10:55:44 PM »
So explain to me how to remove and reinstall Direct X8.

I cannot find this on add remove programs

Offline DAVENRINO

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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2003, 11:59:15 PM »
Haven't tried it myself but several say it works great.

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 DX Buster/Remover (works great with DX9)
Hiya's,
Found a DX remover that works fine with DX9

Goto link and d/load it http://pcmedicdirect.com/downloads/...ter/dxb133e.exe

It will install into prog files
Run it and you will see 3 tabs with step options 1/2/3
Goto 3rd tab and click start
It will ask ok to proceed etc
After that it will ask for a reboot
When back in windose install DX version you want
DX will ask to reboot

Job Done

Works with 9x and 2000 i believe
My OS is now 98SE and i removed DX9 back to DX8.1 easy as pie

Hope this helps anyone who is getting slight freezing after upgrading to DX9


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