Author Topic: PBY (idea htc read) (Read 1654 times)

hyena426 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 31, 2002, 03:10:09 AM »

i do understand that not all production numbers mean anything in aces high,,and its ablilities would warrant perky,,because it would be the most powerfull armed bomber in the skies,,,unless they put in the b29,,lol,,,the h8k only 167 built,,and they were armed like know othere bomber,,,like five 20mm cannons,,,four 7.7mm,,that thing would be the only bomber in the sky if you didnt perk it

you wouldnt see any bomber pilots in anything else,,would carry just as big of bomb load as a b17,,with 3 times the firepower,,i would say it would warrant a perk just like the ar234 because of its production numbers,,limited use,,,and it wasnt that great of a bomber,,it preformed well,,but as a bomber it didnt do that great,,they would hit palm trees and water,lol,,a race track a few times,,lol,,,unlike the pby which killed tons of ship,,planes and even a few tanks,,lol,,and was one of the most deadly night fighters out there,,and its service record speaks for its self:)

usa radar was twice as good as japs,,and the pby would take advanatge of that,,,,and would kick butt in night fighting<~~and if you read,,very deadly at its job for being slow,,,it could pinpoint fleets for your side,,it would be a great awax for defence,,and very tuff,,i think emily should be here too,,but with a perky on it,,lol

Puke · « **Reply #46 on:** December 31, 2002, 04:04:59 AM »

When I'm shot down, I do not bail but ride it onto terra-firma and then re-up asap. I don't need anyone flying around to try to "rescue" me from the MA. Also, I am not that concerned about my points or my score...and certainly not about saving 1/2 of what I may have earned on that sortie when I can just reup and gain them back instead of waiting for someone to "rescue" me in the MA to save me and my points. Rescue aircraft, and to a slightly lesser degree, night fighting aircraft, seem like a stand-alone simulation type of product and not a MMP environment role.

I refrained from commenting until now, but I just don't get the appeal here.

hyena426 · « **Reply #47 on:** December 31, 2002, 04:36:57 AM »

rescue,,lol,,pby did lots more than just rescue,,,it was a killing machine very capable of multiple rolls,,great radar, it ruled the night skies in ww2,it was a ship killer from hell,,it could find them with radar,,then bomb the hell out of them,,,and aces high could use a good night fighting machine

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Rescue aircraft, and to a slightly lesser degree, night fighting aircraft,

<~~you saying night fighting is not importaint? think you need to read the history book a little more,,because its very importaint,,and aces high doesnt have any radar machines or night fighters that could do the job like the pby or emily,,radar is everything at night

brady · « **Reply #48 on:** December 31, 2002, 08:39:11 AM »

Ya bailing in the MA is pointless even if you do 9 times outa 10 some ashole will shoot you in your chute anyway, how long would you last on the ground if you actualy made it that far.

I simply can not see Pyro adding the slowest Seaplane out of the Above choices that also has the weakest defensive guns coupled with the lighest bombload out of the above choices. no matter how it is shugar coated.

The US did not have the most plane types, Germany and Japan both had I beleave more respective types or at the very least the same number. US production in general was of course far greater. But as has been said this not a factor.

The PBY's war record is also irevelent, granted it was a realy neat plane, but this aint WW2 this is the MA and it would be dead in 2 seconds, and it would be usless in the CT as well.

I salute your effort's but your arguments seam based more in and on the love of the plane then on a platform of understanding of what may be best for the comunity.

BenDover · « **Reply #49 on:** December 31, 2002, 12:24:15 PM »

no matter how fancy its radar was, there's no point, EVERY aircraft and vehicle in AH has a 'neon sign radar system with laser range finder' (TM)

Puke · « **Reply #50 on:** December 31, 2002, 02:56:57 PM »

Hyena,

Kbar originally posted this:

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I was wondering if you could add the PBY to the plane set. They could be used to rescue downed pilots in the water. Maybe give them partial credit for getting back to base with the PBY help.

and no where do I state anything about the PBY not having been important in the real war effort,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lol,,,,,,,,,,,,instead,,,,,,,,,,,, lol,,,,,,,,I stated something more to the point,,,,,,,,,,,lol ,,,,,,,,,that it wouldn't,,,,,,,,, have much use,,,,,,,,, in the MA,,,,,,,, lol

hyena426 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 31, 2002, 03:13:23 PM »

i bet it would have alot more uses than the kate,,stuka,,and il2,,,out carries them,,just a tad slower,,and about 5 times tuffer and armored really well,,lol,if they model it right,,it should be a tuff bird,,and landing on the sea,,and finding ships to kill,,would be a wonderfull job for the plane,,and if they gave it the black cat ability's,,it would be the night sky fighter of aces high,,and its radar does mean somthing,,its 10 times better than most craft,,,because usa radar was the shiznitts,,lol,,they would spot you before you even new they were there,,sneeky machines:)

hyena426 · « **Reply #52 on:** December 31, 2002, 03:36:26 PM »

the pby does stir up alot of crap,,lol,,and im not arguing about it just for the sake of it,,i think it was a really good plane,,and desurves to be model right in a game,,,it had good guns,,shot down a bunch of planes in its day,,,it killed boats like no othere plane in the world,,,and its night time ablitlies made it one of the importaint ww2 craft,i think it desurves its chance,,because of production numbers and its uses,,,but i see how everyone doesnt wanna fly a slow plane,,,,im not a big fan of the plane,,but it would give us more things we could do,,,landing on water,,going ship hunting,,,and if it had kick butt radar like it should have,,it would pinpoint all the trouble in the skies,,,it would be tons of fun,,and lots funny than driving a,,kate,,or il2,,better guns,,and would do the same job with bigger payload

but i do think,,you all got some good points,,but to get realism there going to have to add every well used plane to this game,,or it wont be a ww2 sim,,it will just be what ever people wanna fly game,,lol,,because not everyone got a 262,,or comet handed to them,,,i think pby would survive if they made it as tuff as it should be,,and made it the best night hunter in the game<~~like it should be

BenDover · « **Reply #53 on:** December 31, 2002, 04:05:21 PM »

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Originally posted by BenDover
no matter how fancy its radar was, there's no point, EVERY aircraft and vehicle in AH has a 'neon sign radar system with laser range finder' (TM)

hyena426 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 31, 2002, 05:02:19 PM »

Well, let me go back to the discussion we had with the captain in the cabin. We said, "What are we going to look for?" He said, "There's a report with two cruisers in the Kwajalein Atoll, in the lagoon, and we want to see if we can't get one or two of those." I could see a cruiser against a PBY - it's not a very fair match. We had the advantage all over them. He couldn't see us so well but we could see him sitting down there in the water. This was to later be determined who could see who

sounds like it was killer against shipping,,,,can your lazer range finder pick up a ship more than 40mils away?,,,i dont think so,,lol,,pby could find them with ease,,thats what they were best at,,and they massed the best ship killing record in history,,,one group of them alone got a confirmed 150,000 tons in shipping

Puke · « **Reply #55 on:** December 31, 2002, 05:11:46 PM »

Hyena426,

Do you play Aces High? I just searched the last two months for a score by the name "hyena426" and "hyena" and don't see anything coming up.

I'm wondering if you don't realize that in Aces High the clipboard always shows you where the enemy is and when you get within a certain proximity, a big icon appears over the enemy dot which is bright as can be in the blackest of simulated nights like a neon sign pointing you the way to your quarrie's position. And right now, enemy warships are grouped together in a Task Force and cannot be split off. You will not find a cruiser in an anemy atoll.

Basically, relying on airborne air-air radar would be a step backwards in MA unless the whole visual system in Aces High is revamped. And the oceans are not that vast in Aces High and it takes very little effort to find an enemy Task Force. So really, the PBY's radar and ability to rescue survivors would serve little purpose in the MA environment. I don't see the PBY as being other than your basic bomber that can float and there are a few bombers that can be said are needed.

hyena426 · « **Reply #56 on:** December 31, 2002, 05:17:38 PM »

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ability to rescue survivors would serve little purpose in the MA environment

who says it was going to be a recue chopper?,,hehehe,,i never said such a thing,,lol

would be the best against ships ,,because it can find them 40mils away,,,now the planes are visible on radar on plane,,but shipping is invisible,,and with out searce radar only way you can find them,,is hoping you fly over them,,,or hope a plane is flying close to the ships,,,this plane could see them and tell which way they were heading ,,and report to everyone were they were at,,while making there attack run,,it was a ship killer of all ship killers

and i dont use hyena426 as my arena name,,thx for lookin,,does it matter what my score is?,,naw,, the b boards are for anyone to make remarks on planes

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I'm wondering if you don't realize that in Aces High the clipboard always shows you where the enemy is and when you get within a certain proximity,

<~~yes everyone knows this,,but in main the ranges in enemy territory is horrible,,thats were the pby comes in as a awax and bomber and ship killer,,it pretty much does everything,,lol but i know the big red block tell you if some one is in that territory,,but it doesnt tell you were at,,unlike the pinpoint of a pby,,,and ship are invisible unless you run into them

BenDover · « **Reply #57 on:** December 31, 2002, 06:03:17 PM »

It's LASER!!!!

Laser is an acronym, it stands for:
Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

Jeez, don't they teach you guys anything in school

hyena426 · « **Reply #58 on:** December 31, 2002, 06:57:49 PM »

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It's LASER!!!!

my mistake teach lol i know its laser,,just a misspelling,, i dont spell check every thing i type,,i aint so anal about that stuff:) if some one messes up,,ooh well,,no biggie as long as i can tell what they were talking about

and dont go on schooling now,,,most people in europe dont even know how long a mile is,,we had to learn metric and standard systems here,,and most high scool students in the usa, Britain and europe couldnt point out were africa is on a map,,lol,, were do they get these polls? because in my school one of first thing we had to learn about was the world,,and we all had to color little maps and put the right name's on each continent<~~first grade stuff

next time ben ill make sure to put lazer,,ooops i mean LASER:),,heheh make ya a tad bit happier?,,think you need to cheer up a little before newyears<~~dont be so serious about a little mistake bud:D

Puke · « **Reply #59 on:** January 01, 2003, 12:56:00 AM »

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and i dont use hyena426 as my arena name,,thx for lookin,,does it matter what my score is?,,naw,, the b boards are for anyone to make remarks on planes

Naww, I don't care what your score is. I became unsure if you fly in Aces High because you were talking about striking cruisers in atolls and that just doesn't happen here and so I looked for your score via that name only to see if you fly here. Sounds like you do. That's all that was.

I'm done w/ this topic. Take care.