Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
BS-- that's one thing that does exist... and used periodically... in a thread about German planes, someone (won't name names) comes in and says, "Of course that won't get fixed, but [insert something allied] will" or something along those lines.
That's saying that there is an intentional bias- hence a conspiracy.
-SW
er i think you have missed something here SW.
It is not a case of people claiming there is some kind of conspiricy.
I dont think HT or anyone in HTC cares or has the time to work out some antiLW plot but i do see bias of sorts.
one example is when i asked about why the 190d9 was set the same for wep and cooling times as the 190A's when it quite clearly has a different cooling system, ie water cooled I was accused by HT of only wanting to have a super plane for my own use. He implied my sole reason for asking was for personal gain.He even then went on to say that i wouldnt post anything in the BBs that might show any luftwaffe aircraft should be reduced or toned down if i found evidence of it.Utter roadkill and I found it extremely offensive.
If i was to look at all the posts on all the aircraft, 90% of them are posts from a player who likes a particular aircraft and happens to have more books on that particular aircraft . And a high percentage of these are requests for improvements to their model. i.e. combat flaps on p38s.
I never saw HT call those players who asked for stuff of being only after self gain (or whatever he thinks my motive was) and therefore their research or discovery of info is to be ignored as biased.
Theres also the pointthat in all the time we have had the 190F8 there have been constant requests for greater variety of loadouts with tonnes of info showing what they could carry.I can appreciate HTC dont always have the time to add every request made but comon this has been requested since its addition to the planeset.
You might say its because LW are always asking for it and so have annoyed HTC so much that they decide not to do it but do you think any player who flies the USAAF planes like p47 p51 or p38 wouldnt have asked the same amount of times had HTC only added half the bomb options they have?
I have yet to find a reference or photo of a p51,p38 or p47 with the maximum loadouts possible in AH.I have seen references to them using bombs OR rockets and rockets with lighter bombs than 1000lbers but they have been included in AH so we have to accept HTC has info that says they were right?
I have seen many photos and references to 190f8's having far more diverse loadouts and ive seen many a post in here but those players asking were either abused or accused of whining etc.Even HTC seemed to totally ignore it until very recently.
The way i figure it maybe HTC has had a lot of trouble from LW types since the warbirds days? and perhaps there is a certain type of player who demands too much for his liking? I dont know but i must say I have lost a lot of respect for this company recently after recieving what i would call a rude answer from them.
Players who ask about LW planes are no different to those asking about any plane. They are fans of HTCs game and should not be treated any differently.At first i used to laugh along with the leather jokes etc but now I find it all a bit petty and childish.
The reason it lost its comic effect is that it has been used as a weapon to annoy and frustrate players asking legitimate questions. One thing I know is when i see someone post a query about a spitfire or ki 61 I dont assume the guy posting it is hell bent on making that aircraft the best and therefore ignore what he has written because he isnt capable of an objective discussion.
I have seen this sort of thing happen to wotan and several others including myself.
I still have yet to see an explanation from anyone in here as to why the 190a8 doesnt match any charts or info ive seen concerning its climbrate over 25k. I still dont know quite whats modeled into the ta152 (as in mw50? gm1? whatever). I dont know if ill ever see the 190f8 get the upgraded armour it was made with or the loadouts it had. I still dont understand why the 190d9(an inline jumo engine with liquid cooling) has the same timing for cooling as the 190A's(air cooled radial) yet the 109G's are totally different (liquid cooled inlines again). and then theres the RAF planes that are different in cooling again!. If you can give me any of the answers to these questions SW and perhaps explain just what HT meant in the reply to my infamously SELFISH questions on cooling(sheesh!) then by all means post it.
I dont assume a conspiracy. but i do see a different attitude shown towards LW players. From customers in here abusing to strange criptic comments from HT every now and then. It is here and it doesnt do HTC's reputation much good when someone totally new to online sims comes into these boards and reads it.
I have to say it SW most of the time i see you as one of the worst offenders.There have been times where ive seen you be very reasonable like the discussion about the 190a8 where you posted info, I posted info and between us we kind of worked out that HTC must have taken an average of all info to model our 190a8.In that post i thought you was pretty good with what you said.In others I see you trying your best to aggrivate the poster or just plain take the piss.
If the intention is to piss off customers who like LW so much that they lose interest in trying to get their aircraft improved or dont bother to ever post info they find about LW in these boards then I have to say its working.At least it has against me.I dont think i'll ever stop feeling annoyed by it all or for that matter ever stop wondering what the answers are but I have lost a huge part of the AH experience now that i dont really follow the technical side of the game.The questions on accuracy or modeling were all part of the enjoyment for a long time.I bought many books because of AH and because i wanted to see just how accurate it is.Now it seems to have just become like any other flight sim where I have no chance to get involved in its development or refinement.
Think about it, we all love these boards because we can put in ideas or info in the hope it helps HTC decide on new features.Thats what i assumed these boards were all about.Seems lately they are just about who has the snappiest insult or who can flame a player the best.Its like juvenille hall.
