Author Topic: Is this freedom? (Read 2996 times)

Curval · « **on:** December 31, 2002, 07:46:48 AM »

freedom

I have read all about how free you are in the US to buy guns and to shoot them.

Seems like New York is taking a big bite out of the freedom of people to smoke...even in bars.

I thought the US was the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Your not scared of guns....just cigarettes?

(whizzzzzzzzzzz...plonk...the lure is set)

Curval · « **Reply #1 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:22:12 AM »

Maybe I should change my handle to Beet1e and have a heading "New York Nannies Its Citizens"?

Wlfgng · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:23:09 AM »

no smoking here in my town Curval...

at least not indoors in public places.

Curval · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:25:46 AM »

Isn't that an infringement of a smokers freedom to kill himself slowly.

I know that the laws are in place to protect the lungs of non-smokers...some might call that nannying.

Thanks for playing wlfgng:D

ra · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:35:51 AM »

FWIW New York City doesn't allow its citizens to buy or shoot guns, either.

midnight Target · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:36:24 AM »

Quit 3 years ago,

Make them all go smoke in a closet!!

Muahahahahahahahahahahah

SOB · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:37:56 AM »

It's a public health concern. Tho' I still say that if you want to go into a bar, you should expect smoke.

SOB

Greese · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:38:28 AM »

Here in LA smoking is already banned in bars, restaurants, etc.

I really like it. It helped me quit, because I used to smoke a lot in bars just for the heck of it. Now, I don't feel the pressure to smoke in a bar because it's not allowed.

Restaurants- It's a whole new experience eating your food without the smoke from the next booth over coming into your space.

Go smoke outside. I would consider, especially after living in LA, that if someone were to light up next to me in a bar, they might as well have just let a stinky fart.

AKIron · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:43:29 AM »

The freedom is to be able to enter any public place without having to breath a carcinogen.

No where in the US is there "freedom" to shoot someone with your gun unless of course they cut you off in traffic.

ra · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2002, 09:58:43 AM »

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The freedom is to be able to enter any public place without having to breath a carcinogen.

Second hand smoke is not a carcinogen, that is a huge scam.

AKIron · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2002, 10:02:29 AM »

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Originally posted by ra
Second hand smoke is not a carcinogen, that is a huge scam.

Perpetuated by the non-tobacco growers of America?

Wlfgng · « **Reply #11 on:** December 31, 2002, 10:07:49 AM »

just thought I'd pass the lure around Curval .. glad to help

ra · « **Reply #12 on:** December 31, 2002, 10:14:13 AM »

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Perpetuated by the non-tobacco growers of America?

Perpetuated by lawyers and nannies.

AKIron · « **Reply #13 on:** December 31, 2002, 10:19:35 AM »

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Originally posted by ra
Perpetuated by lawyers and nannies.

Ra, I suspect you're serious. If so, then tell me why the same smoke (although filtered) causes lung cancer and many other diseases in smokers but won't affect the health of non smokers? It can't be the quantity since there's no real evidence as to how much smoke it takes to cause these diseases.

2Slow · « **Reply #14 on:** December 31, 2002, 10:19:40 AM »

The stats and study on second hand smoke is flawed. The number of second hand smoke deaths comes out to 1/10 of 1 percent of the U.S. population. With a 3% margin of error, the number is bogus.

New Years resolution, quit smoking. Have patches, hypnosis tapes, herb pills, fat blocker pills.