doh p38 streak over after 116 kills

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Kieran:
The sheer boredom of seeking that record is plenty to keep me from ever trying

It might not necessarily be boredom, but its very stressing, at least been for me when doing the streaks.
With all "senses" being in alert without a break.

Bigger mass doesn't really mean bigger danger, since it also means more friendlies who will knowingly go after that one poor sucker behind you when you go towards your own field - ala ol' good gang bang style.
If theres too few friendlies, it just means the bogey will have less things to worry and will stick on you even more.

I suppose you're Kieren, but with that odd 'a' instead of 'e' right?
Good example for you..  being more after the other enemy fighters than the one who you just shot few times too many.
If there wouldn't been others, you'd been more glued up to make sure the 190 went down.


My normal cruising altitude was 8-16k, because I wanted to reserve my fuel.
Theres no sense going above 20k unless really need to.
Also with altitude, I was not afraid of dogfightning 1 on 1 with spitfire if there was enough altitude and friendly support close enough run from the altitude -> friendlies.
and fewer SA - over bigger fights, I was constantly afraid of higher planes, which just made me more to look around.

When theres fewer planes, you don't need that much SA, thanks to this radar.
You're having much easier time tracking the cons, but in big furball, theres unknown amount of enemies and you have to be constantly peering above you.
I refer them as 'Hawks', who often are more of a cherry pickers than I ever have.

I just dont like it nice when someone seems to underestimate 1 on 1 skills and fault as cherry picker who does only lousy BnZ's    
I've played Dawn of Aces, where BnZ hardly was an option and there I had great times in dogfights, actually more fun than in AH ever (less BnZ crap) and along with many streaks, my highlight in DoA was 96 kills in 14 sorties, with one death. (due to not following the rules I had set)
Many times I've wished to have early war planes in AH, since that increases the amount of skill needed to dogfight, IMO.

Anyway, I guess I should shut up before thread goes way off the topic and flamewar starts.

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Fishu ]

[K West]

"Better cherry picker than a cherry !"

 I disagree.  For all the "challenge" associated with shooting down the unaware (cherry picking) you'd figure one could save the online subscription fee $$ and play against AI in some box game    

 Cherry picking is much like a biker that rides the fringe of an on-foot gang fight who blows through the fight in progress to smash someone already occupied with an opponant. Such a method of online "combat" hardly warrants "awe" let alone respect.

 IMO folks who fly and kill like that are much like 'l33t 5n1p3r dEwD's' in FPS games who start chest thumping when they've sniped xxx people.

  Westy

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: O'Westy ]

[Kieran]

I'm not flaming Fishu, and in fact I compliment your skills. I think you misunderstand me there. But you should know you have not weakened my view of flying for streaks in the least. I know you would take the 1 vs. 1, never disputed that. But you know you also would bust through furballs, too.

There are a great number of dedicated LW pilots that can work a furball very well, staying around to fight until the odds turn too sour. No, I wouldn't turnfight for long with a Spit either, but I will go a turn or two in an A5 just to see what the Spit is made of. If the guy is not good I will get him; if he looks like someone that knows his stuff I can always leave.

In a furball this can be a bit harder if I want to TnB, because multiple Spits are bad news. I have to keep the speed up and pick the targets more carefully. Notice how I am careful not to call these "fights"?  I am no longer engaging enemies 1 vs. 1, rather I am looking for the distracted foe. A 190 in this environment will now extend more and enter the fight with more smash. You know this, of course.

[Hristo]

Originally posted by O'Westy:
IMO folks who fly and kill like that are much like 'l33t 5n1p3r dEwD's' in FPS games who start chest thumping when they've sniped xxx people.

  Westy

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: O'Westy ]

You got that right. I am not flying for others to have fun. I fly to give them a bad time   .

Kieran, I was not trying to be arrogant with you. What I wanted was for others to see that streaking has a lot involved. It is not just boring flying. It is SA, E management, patience, gunnery. But most of all it takes nerves.

95% of pilots in AH can take Spit V, dive into furball, get 3 kills and die. Some of us just don’t find that fun.

IMO, mindless furballing is a relaxation compared to high streaking. With you streak getting higher, you have to fight yourself too. Try it sometimes.

And one crazy suicide kamikaze ack diving dweeb can put an end to it anytime.

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Hristo ]

[Nath[BDP]]

You got that right. I am not flying for others to have fun. I fly to give them a bad time.

I am sure most other people do the same as me and give cherry pickers very little mind, much less let them ruin my AH experience--don't be sure that your flying style predominantly effectuates your goal in AH of 'giving other's a bad time'. Because I can assure you it doesn't.


   

95% of pilots in AH can take Spit V, dive into furball, get 3 kills and die. Some of us just don’t find that fun.

True, but what seperates us l33t 'spit dweebz' from others is that we come out with 8 kills. Are you suggesting that you would only be capable of 3 kills in a SpitV? eek.  

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Nath[BDP] ]

[Hristo]

There are many NathBDPs, there is just one Fishu  

[Nath[BDP]]

Equivocal.

[hblair]

My belly hurts.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Hristo:
95% of pilots in AH can take Spit V, dive into furball, get 3 kills and die. Some of us just don’t find that fun.

Wow, 95% can get 3 kills in a furball?  I'm glad the stats on the Spit V bear this out with its remarkable 3:1 K/D ratio.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Citabria]

Originally posted by Hristo:

IMO, mindless furballing is a relaxation compared to high streaking. With you streak getting higher, you have to fight yourself too. Try it sometimes.

if you guys know anything about how casinos stay in business then you will understand how heavy against you the odds are once you get a very high kill streak. You fly the same as you did for the first hundred kills but everything is more intense. you dont run from 1v1s or 2v2s. you fly with your wingman, you analyze the situation much more than you did before. you predict exactly what will happen before you make your moves and then you act based on those predictions. its the challenge of it is why I try to do it once every tour before my first death. it is very difficult the further you go because the odds are against you with disco's, warps, bounces, stalkers and all sorts of nasty surprises waiting to end your reign of terror.

what keeps people playing this game is the challenge and the enjoyment they get from it. thats what keeps me playing.

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Citabria ]

[Hristo]

Originally posted by Dead Man Flying:


Wow, 95% can get 3 kills in a furball?  I'm glad the stats on the Spit V bear this out with its remarkable 3:1 K/D ratio.

-- Todd/Leviathn

There's a difference in can and do. Spit V suffers because not everyone is a Quaker in AH. Poor Spitty  

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Hristo:
There's a difference in can and do. Spit V suffers because not everyone is a Quaker in AH. Poor Spitty  

Now you're not making any sense at all.  If a Spit V can enter a furball and rack up three kills by 95% of all players, then it surely would do better in non-furball situations such as 1v1s or 1v2s.  I expect that its baseline K/D ratio would exceed 3:1 if this were true.  Factor in then vulches and self-adoring cherry pickers BnZing the furballs, and I still find it entirely unlikely that this would drop all the way to 1:1.

Or here's another explanation: In order to feel superior to others, you incessantly belittle both what they fly and the way they fly it.  To that end, you justify your superiority complex with roadkill numbers ungrounded in fact.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Fariz]

I hope AH had a streak counter, waiting start of tour to get a streak is borring.

I love flying for streaks, and I had a real blast flying 262 for streak last tour, but if you really want a long streak you need 3 things: luck, luck, and luck again. Even with most careful flying I get about every 20th death due to net issues, like people shotting me down while I am in warp, or I ram warping plane. You never knows when it will happen, so even with the best skills of the world if you get unlucky day -- say your streak good bye  

Fariz

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Hristo:
There are many NathBDPs, there is just one Fishu  

I remember Fishu's flying, and I remember Nath's flying. Nath is way better.

Fariz

[Hristo]

If AH was a big furball with everyone pulling the stick like mad, Spit V would be top killer.

95% of AH players can jump in Spit V, rack up 3 kills in furball and die. In situation where everyone is pulling the stick all the way back, Spit V dominates. It starts to suffer when other people let go off the stick. Outside of furballs, Spit V is hopeless.