Author Topic: And this gentlemen is why. (Read 5209 times)

ALF · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:10:43 AM »

Its ashame that HT has to devote any substantial amount of time to this weenie patrol, but its the price of the games success. Once the standards are set, and enforced, things will fall in place pretty quickly.

wulfie · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:31:35 AM »

A common (and very incorrect) assumption that is often made:

Everyone trying AH is an 'experienced' denizen of the internet/BBS/etc. environment.

Trust me when I say that you get alot of real life professional pilots that try AH and have never done anything on the internet before.

I played WB from the late beta stages (.98 or so if memory serves) until HT and PYRO 'left town'. My only previous 'online community' experience before WB was very professional usenet comms. I looked at both WB and AW and I never even tried AW because my first communications (which consisted of extremely innocent questions, asked after IDing myself as totally new to online flight sims) with the AW crowd resulted in lame bellybutton 'look how smart I am' pointless flamings.

Within 10 days of my starting to play WB, my entire house (5 guys) was playing WB 16+ hours a day on 2 computers (i.e. both computers running 8 hours a day, with guys taking turns on sorties - we had 2 active accounts at the house). That's 16 hours a day at $2/hour, back in '94-'95 or so. When the guys saw the 'attitude' of the AW crowd we came across (as opposed to 'ob-1' of WB, who basically blew 4+ hours of his free time a day for a week to give informal lessons to everyone at our house) no one dreamed of even trying AW.

Let me be clear - I don't assume all AW players were like the ones that insulted me, because I've been around the BBS environment for years now. But I did assume that back then...which makes the point that much clearer: there are people trying AH who are incapable of understanding alot of the 'inside jokes' of the BBS. If you take a 50 year old guy who's been flying all his life and has never spent time on the internet, and the BBS users don't know his background (if they did they'd probably treat him better than your average 'new guy'), odds are he's going to say 'screw this I'm back to playing golf' the first time some self appointed 'BBS god' decides to 'throw his weight around' in the only place he can - the make believe world of the 'BBS community'.

The only thing I can think of that might immediately help is giving BBS users a box to click when the register for the AH BBS - "Click here if you are trying AH online for the first time, or if you are trying an online game for the first time" - then put that guy's ID and topics started in red - so everyone knows he's 'clueless' when it comes to the very insider type of humor found on most BBS.

Mike/wulfie

GPreddy · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:36:04 AM »

I think all of the insider humor is just a waste of bandwidth.

SOB · « **Reply #18 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:21:36 AM »

I don't.

DrDea/Kvorkian · « **Reply #19 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:41:39 AM »

Possably a good point

Sixpence · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:52:41 AM »

Does this mean I can't say the Raiders suk?

DrDea/Kvorkian · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2003, 02:05:14 AM »

Not untill they lose

Mark Luper · « **Reply #22 on:** January 14, 2003, 04:26:16 AM »

Very good insight there wulfie.

BlauK · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2003, 04:34:38 AM »

It is quite common on the other boards to have moderators who can somewhat control the discussion. AFAIK they are often just carefully selected bbs members who are not paid for what they do.

Could such approach work here? ... and answer before someone asks: "No, I am not volunteering for such job

". But maybe some others would be suitable and willing.

T0J0 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2003, 10:19:47 AM »

How bout a zero tolerance policy?! You reply or create a post that is abusive, your IP is banned for a year. I would have no problem living by that rule. This would greatly facilitate the exchange of pertinant information that the BBS was intended for not the current state of I am bored let me insult somebody attitude that we have been experiencing since I have been a part of the community..
Any thoughts?
~~T0J0~~

narsus · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2003, 11:05:59 AM »

You should just treat others as you would want to be treated, it is as simple as that. Be nice to the new people especially.

vorticon · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2003, 11:07:55 AM »

the reason people flame others because of what they fly is because they FIRMLY beleive that there way is the correct and ONLY way to fly and anyone that doesnt agree is dangerous to them so they have to try and make them do what they want (i hope you followed that)

Karaya · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:08:31 PM »

*pokes head out of hole and looks around*

sees the same ol' same ol'

*goes back into hole*

Don · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2003, 12:31:11 PM »

HT:

IMO its the owner's privilege, and a damned good one to evoke. I have seen some of the posts get very personal in here and have always found it unnecessary. Simple respect can get lost from time to time, and must be moderated. At other times, guys will bring their arena squabbles in here also.
Someone has to squash it before this BBs gets completely out of hand.

DEMAN · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2003, 01:16:11 PM »

WTG Hitech.
My squad and myself have been here for just over a year now and love Aces High to bits. I have looked in from time to time on the BBs but much of the crap I have read has kept me from getting involved much (as you can tell by the number of posts associated with myself)

I find it hard to believe some of the responses to posts are anything other than the personal feeding of a bloated ego by seeing their long winded and insulting prose visible online.

Too bad Hitech has to expend the resources needed to police the BBs but I applaud him for doing so.
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DEMAN
81st CO