Author Topic: Affirmative Action (Read 7634 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #180 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:17:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Which mental abilities does it messure?

Take a mensa test and find out.

logic, deduction, spacial and abstract thought, association, etc

Gunthr · « **Reply #181 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:18:38 PM »

And while you are at it Thrawn, please ask MT if he has ever personally been a victim of Affirmative Action, would you?

Somehow, I think its important.

Thrawn · « **Reply #182 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:20:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Kanth
It makes it not racially biased at all.

It's biased against people not from yellow-lemon land, regardless of race.

immigrants, foreigners, citizens who grew up elsewhere.

Has nothing to do with race tho has to do with locale.

Great, so the question is even worse then we thought for messuring a students ability to do well in University. It excludes EVERYONE who has never heard of a yellow levmon or is used to lemons of a different colour.

Now who do you think is generally able to recognise a yellow lemon, white people or non-white people?

mietla

~~There are as many definition for intelligence as there is psycologists.~~

NUKE · « **Reply #183 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:25:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Great, so the question is even worse then we thought for messuring a students ability to do well in University. It excludes EVERYONE who has never heard of a yellow levmon or is used to lemons of a different colour.

Now who do you think is generally able to recognise a yellow lemon, white people or non-white people? [/QUOT

Maybe we should only let US citizens of 10 years or more enter our universities then..... problem solved.

Kanth · « **Reply #184 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:32:24 PM »

people who have lived in yellow-lemon land long enough to qualify to go to a college as a resident.

which also cuts their tuition btw, since most countries dollar except a few has a dollar what is worth less than the US dollar.

that's not racially biased either.

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Originally posted by Thrawn

Now who do you think is generally able to recognise a yellow lemon, white people or non-white people?

Thrawn · « **Reply #185 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:34:09 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE

Maybe we should only let US citizens of 10 years or more enter our universities then..... problem solved.

But it's not. There still is a disproportionate number of white people in universities compared to black people.

That is, after all, one of the reasons AA exists in the first place.

NUKE · « **Reply #186 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:39:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
But it's not. There still is a disproportionate number of white people in universities compared to black people.

That is, after all, one of the reasons AA exists in the first place.

What should we do about the disproportionate number of blacks in pro sports? Maybe we could have AA for whites that can't phsyically make the grade so they are able to play .

Kanth · « **Reply #187 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:43:05 PM »

But it's only a problem when it's due the school not letting in blacks because of their race or hispanics or women for their gender for that matter.

Just like we have football teams that have a disproportionate number of blacks but that's not a problem because the folks on the team were picked because they play well, they passed their tests.

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Originally posted by Thrawn
But it's not. There still is a disproportionate number of white people in universities compared to black people.

That is, after all, one of the reasons AA exists in the first place.

Kanth · « **Reply #188 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:44:05 PM »

Damnit Nuke..you're too fast for me, I'l wait for a slump.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #189 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:53:18 PM »

can't have that nuke anything that balances an 'injustice' against whites is racist. if it helps blacks it's just good clean fun.

btw- MT, unless hispanics have a genetic deffect that causes them not to see yellow when it's on a lemon, then your question is not racialy biased.

and the 'proof' you gave that it was is garbage.

if for example what if there was a question

2+2=

a. 3 b. 4 c. 5 d. 15

if a large percentage of blacks chose c. 5, would that mean the question is racialy biased or would it just mean that those blacks who missed that question needed to study more math?

again you are using circular logic. hipanics didn't do well on that question because it was biased. the question is biased because hispanics didn't do well with that question.

now it was on the other hand quite easy to see a regional bias to that question. It shouldn't be hard for you to show a question with an equally clear racisl bias, if one exists.

Thrawn · « **Reply #190 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:53:44 PM »

Do you think that there are a disproportionate number of whites in most pro sports because of racial reasons?

(On a personal note, OH! Poor opressed white race, is the black man keeping you down?

)

capt. apathy · « **Reply #191 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:55:22 PM »

thrawn,
no I'm ok with acepting that maybe there are just more blacks who play well enough to go pro.

Thrawn · « **Reply #192 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:57:38 PM »

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Originally posted by capt. apathy
thrawn,
no I'm ok with acepting that maybe there are just more blacks who play well enough to go pro.

Do you think that black people get any sort of advantage compared to white people in this field?

mietla · « **Reply #193 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:59:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Do you think that there are a disproportionate number of whites in most pro sports because of racial reasons?

(On a personal note, OH! Poor opressed white race, is the black man keeping you down? )

No, it's a white man not being racist. Merit is merit.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #194 on:** January 20, 2003, 06:59:37 PM »

no, but I don't think whites get any sort of racial advantage in employment or education either.