Author Topic: Jets (Read 642 times)

artik · « **on:** January 24, 2003, 08:51:27 AM »

Hi All.

Does anybody know if more jet planes will be added to the game?
Planes like British Meteor, Mig 15,17
F86, French SuperMister, Vampire

Later jet planes maybe?

WarBirds are planning to add Korean War Planes,
does Hitech will do the same or they work on WWII planes
only?

Artik

buzkill · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2003, 09:16:44 AM »

they only use planes that saw active service in wwII

HeLLcAt · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2003, 09:25:26 AM »

The Gloster Meteor might and MAYBE the F-86, but I doubt the other 2 will

Puke · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2003, 10:24:50 AM »

Just give me an F-8U Crusader and I'll never whine about an LA7 again!

Pongo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2003, 10:40:09 AM »

Give it up guys...HT is just not open minded about this topic..
I have been begging for a Hawker Hunter since this game was in Beta...But for some strange reason, known only to HT..we still dont have it.

Vermillion · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2003, 10:41:22 AM »

Puke, you can have your Crusader... but I'll take a MiG-19 !

Maybe someday.... sooner or later. But I'd say sooner.

Jester · « **Reply #6 on:** January 24, 2003, 11:10:26 AM »

HEY PUKE ~~! You da Man! Am a fellow "Sader" fan - will wing with you.~~

Puke · « **Reply #7 on:** January 24, 2003, 11:13:35 AM »

Andi, and you have the right markings to boot! VF-24 and 211 are the bomb!

Verm, I'll take you up on that. That would prove a very good fight, the MiG-19 has excellent thrust compared to the MiG-17 yet more maneuverable than the MiG-21. So what has you thinking sooner than later? Inquiring minds are dying to know what you know.

Vermillion · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2003, 11:38:09 AM »

Puke, send me some email at vermillion_c@hotmail.com . I tried to private message you thru the board and it says you have that feature turned off.

PS thats an underscore between the n and the c, this bbs underlines email addies

Furious · « **Reply #9 on:** January 24, 2003, 11:51:46 AM »

(Oh-oh, here she comes) Watch out boy she'll chew you up
(Oh-oh, here she comes) She's a maneater

Jester · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2003, 01:45:31 PM »

VF-211 "CHECKMATES" is my favorite. They were the top scoring Crusader Squadron during the Vietnam War with 8 MIG-17 Kills.

"MIG MASTERS"

Puke · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2003, 02:28:53 PM »

Verm, I clicked your link and sent you an e-mail.

Andi, it's them Crusader pilots that taught everyone BFM during the Vietnam War...USN and USAF included. Too bad that by 1972 the Crusader squadrons still in the theater were relegated secondary roles that would provide little possibility of MiG encounter, or else that score would have continued. I believe, off the top of my head, only VF-96 beats out those 8-kills with 9-kills, and VF-96 were there from day-1 to mid-late 1972. VF-211, that's my bird!

Jester · « **Reply #12 on:** January 25, 2003, 06:08:59 AM »

VF-96 "FIGHTING FALCONS" had 10 MIG kills (Confirmed) during the Vietnam War - 8 MIG-17's & 2 MIG-21's. 5 of these kills were by one crew - Lt. Randy Cunningham & LtJG Willie Driscroll.

All of VF-96's kills were in the F-4 PHANTOM II. VF-96 got it's first kill in 5/68 - almost 10 months after VF-211 got their last kill.

Agree - once the Phantom's came online with the fleet the Crusaders flying from the smaller ESSEX class carriers were relegated to Flak Suppression while the Phantoms got the MIG CAPS & TAR CAPS.

Puke · « **Reply #13 on:** January 25, 2003, 10:06:51 AM »

Like I said, it was off the top of my head. So you counted 10...it's really 11 because now they do count that ChiCom MiG shot down in 1965 under really mysterious circumstances. Well, actually, what's mysterious is the loss of the F-4 which may have been downed by another F-4.

Vermillion · « **Reply #14 on:** January 25, 2003, 11:11:21 AM »

Another issue with the Navy squadrons getting kills were the tactics of the Vietnamese themselves. Evidently the Vietnamese prefered to engage the Air Force strikes with their better fighters and more experienced pilots, particularly during the later Linebacker campaigns in 1972. Leaving the ground based air defense systems to deal with Navy Strikes.

This was due to the advantages the Navy had over the Air Force. In particular the ability to steam the Carrier Task Forces farther north, giving the Navy planes more endurance and the protection of a SAM umbrella to run too if in need.

The Vietnamese felt that they got more "bang for the buck" you might say for committing their fighters against the AF since they had farther to fly. Even small amounts of damage were more deadly, and it was even possible to engage them and run them low on fuel, risking crashing the planes later.

Being able to go "Feet Wet" was a huge advantage for the Navy pilots.