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Offline SOB

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« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2001, 06:08:00 AM »
For me, the 109G2 and P51B are two peas in a pod.  I can pretty much fly them interchangeably and get the same amount of kills per sortie without altering my flying style (that is, if you could call it style  :D).


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« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2001, 07:12:00 AM »
After last night, I find it almost impossable to agree with anything GLasses has said.   Glasses,  I'll write you a check right now for the first months use of the " better Sim" you are going to write on one condtion.  You leave AH and not come back.  I'm more then willing to contribute to your endevore as long as I don't have to listen to you belittling the work of another designer.  If I was HT, I simply would  credit your account for this months fee and close the door to you.    What you are doing is walking in to the House that HT built and pissing on the floor.  I have said this before to you and to a few other.  If you don't like this game, if you feel you can do better, then leave!  Stop paying that 15 bucks and get on with your life elsewere.  

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« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2001, 07:22:00 AM »
Realistic BBS banter mode on.

If Glasses and the like ever flew .50 wagons exclusive and got used to them, it would hurt.

LW rides are sweet, but dull on the snap shot.

Unlike a AH icon fool that says, it's not what you fly,fly what you want, it's actually what you adapt to.

 Don't encourage them.

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« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2001, 07:25:00 AM »
I forgot about the G6, and A8.

Retract that. Shhhhh.

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« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2001, 08:13:00 AM »
Most of the things I've would of posted are now said . The LW crowd have to be more aware of their surroundings, much more aware of how they're going in shoot and look at aspect of the target, go in less than 450yards to make the kill and zoom considerably farther away to get any survivability.

My delightful co AHer Seawulfe said that the g6 is one of the easier planes to fly here in the Arena,I beg to differ. The 109G6  is one of the most unforgiving aircraft in the LW plane set combat wise. You cannot extend away when in trouble, nor can you out climb them, no the HUB mounted 20mm is not a laser as funked has said,sure you may get concentrated fire if and when you fire all guns(including mgs) but you need to be very very precise on how and when  you fire making a split second decision on whether to make the shot,since with the Gondolas the G6 is even more of a sitting duck.

 G10 up to a certain point may get you out of trouble at high alt, at least it rules there, and can leave ponies asfixiated trying to catch you only a good burst of The "Laser" as I've grown to call it can bring you down  from a thousand yards.

 A Yak and La7 can TNB from 30k all the way down to the deck and build up speed faster than a dog attached to firecrackers, no doubt about that. You don't need to think anything about approach engagement and exit just go in Turn ,Zoom ,Turn some more, and accel away, those planes are what Checkers is to Chess. Both planes may have considerable shorter ammo load but by no means it's hard to get at LEAST one to two kills per sortie,plenty of times I've had flight surfaces(or even whole parts) of the aircraft blown off in excess of 800yards.

The point I  make is ingress, engagement and egress is  far more  a challenge in any LW aircraft,especially if you mess up,sometimes is little you can do than hope that a team mate comes and rescues you from your fate, or you can make the other guy run out of bullets while maneuvering.


Vati en light of your statement and mine in the MA I was utterly disgusted with the way Lag has been increasing with the added customer intake firing walls of bullets only to get maybe a radiator shot off or just and aileron (which BTW where mostly hits) was really frustrating that night,what would of been a sure kill, just went home slightly damaged. And again I like the game there are some aspects I don't like and while I 'm paying , you  can bet I'll use the rest room here.  :)

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« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2001, 08:32:00 AM »
The Bf109G6 is a very good plane if you have learned to fight and live before, its just as slow as funkeds spits but it doesnt turn as well or climb as well as a MkIX, its a very bad plane if you are a new guy who only knows to fly spits in turns or run away in La7s, P51s or Bf109G10s.

I like the Bf109G6. Its the classic 109 and the best looking 109 as well.  :)

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« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2001, 10:06:00 AM »
G6 is better than the G2 for survivability, especially if you fly a G2 with gondolas.

And well, I'm 20/4 in the 109G2/R6 this tour.
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2001, 10:10:00 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
I like the Bf109G6. Its the classic 109 and the best looking 109 as well.   :)

Agreed.

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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2001, 10:47:00 AM »
Well... G6 or F4 are not the best to be caught out alone in but... they are very effective for engaging in small and medium furs that occur about halway between bases.  I am much more comfortable mixing it up than I am in my -1.   A hog is inferior in most situations in the arena and harder to fly well and manage.  The 109's are very forgiving and with such good acceleration can reach friendly ack quickly if it is oh, half a sector or less away.   The U.S. planes won't even reach their top speed in that time.  

The G10 and d9 don't count.  They don't belong in a mid war arena.  They belong with P51's, la7's Ta152's and -4' 262's and such in a late war "area" only of the map.  Who would fly such things against mid war planes anyhow?
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2001, 12:56:00 PM »
funked ? what a hell ?  :)  leave the Lw alone   :)

btw what is your new handle not see u long time

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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2001, 01:54:00 PM »
Hi Minus, I have the same handle.  I only fly evenings US time due to my job.  Hope to see you soon.

Glasses, 109G spinner gun is a short range laser, but a laser nonetheless.  More like a scalpel.  I agree with most of your other comments if you ignore D-9 and G-10.  Those two (especially G-10) can make mistakes just like La-7 and get away with a few LWarps and that on-all-the-time LWEP.

Grunherz, G-6 is about 20 mph faster than Spit IX on the deck, and has better acceleration and climb.  Even Bf 109F-4 has 10-15 mph on the Spit IX down low.  But compared to La-7, Typhoon, P-51, etc, they are all slow.

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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2001, 03:55:00 PM »
I've often wondered why the 109G10, LA7, Pony, and a couple others aren't cheap perks.

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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2001, 04:45:00 PM »
I'd be all for perking the G10, PonyD, La7, Tiffie, etc.  The only thing that counts against it is that people are, by human nature, always looking for an advantage.  You perk the La-7, P-51D, 109G10, 190D9, Yak-9U, and Tiffie, and then people just hop into the next fastest plane and BnZ in that.

I really like a "solution" that someone proposed a while back (can't remember who, maybe Lazs).  Perk everything.  Not an expensive perk, but perk everything.  Or perhaps leave the early war versions unperked, and the mid and late war planes perked.  Of course, I really seriously doubt that this would happen, but I think it would be neat to try out.

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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2001, 05:58:00 PM »
i love all the 109s - my favorite changes from month to month but the attraction has been enough to keep me in them tour after tour. after a while its hard to fly anything else -  it throws you off  :)

speaking of attraction, you guys seen this site? MUST-VIEWING for 109 enthusiasts...
 http://www.one-o-nine.com/index-1024.htm

 

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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2001, 07:56:00 PM »
SpitIX climbs better in my experience, that is I see a higher number in the spit IX climb rate gauge than I do in the 109G6s.

The Spit IX semms faster at alt but I agree the 109G6 seems a bit faster than spit on deck but im not sure its 20mph. One thing is for sure the 109G6 markedly outdives the Spit IX this makes sense as 109G6 should also initially outdive a Spit XIV.

The 109G6 is a good experts plane but a poor begginer plane, what you do and if you can survive in the 109G6 is more a reflection of the pilot than the planes ability. Its not fast it doesnt turn great and it doesnt climb great but does everything OK and lests the pilot figure it all out.


As for the 30mm, well I love it and if im in sync with the gun I can get nearly 600yard 90 degree snapshots with it (this is very very rare tho).