I rarely agree with Glassess

[AKcurly]

Usually when Glassess starts droning about LW stuff, I just squelch 1.  He is too darn unhappy about the efficacy of allied 50cal when compared to axis 12mm.  Been there, listened to it and etc.

However, last night Glassess stated that LW iron required you to think more when flying it.  And I got to wondering ...  

There are many aspects to a fight -- so many, there's no point in even talking about it here.  

The LW have 2 planes (ta 152 and 190 d9) from which you can easily get 400-500 yard kills IF your opponent is dumb enough to fly straight and level.  However, for me, it's a waste of ammo to take a 400-500 yard deflection shot in a d9.

On the other hand, I routinely take 400-500 yard deflection shots in ponies and hellcats and I have a reasonable expectation of landing a good fraction of the burst.

If they'll fly straight and level, I can inflict considerable damage out to 1,000 yards.

Regardless of flight characteristics ... successful LW gunnery has to be accomplished around 300 yards or less.

To me, this says you have to plan your attack in such a way that you have a 300 yard shot.  That is not the case with 50 cal 6 shooters.

So, much to my horror, I think I agree with Glasses.    Quick, someone tell me I'm wrong!

AKcurly

[funkedup]

There are lots of planes in the set that require you to get inside 300 yards.  LW does not have a monopoly on this.  They just squawk louder about it.      

As for effectiveness of planes with lots of .50's...  Well that's the benefit of big huge planes with many guns and tons of ammo.  LW planes enjoy the benefits of small aircraft, warp-friendly roll/yaw rates and unmatched rate of climb.

And don't forget about MG 131.  They can hit and damage out to 1000 yards or so.  Fortunately there are only two of them per plane.    

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[lazs1]

I tried a G6 on a bet and found that it was the easiest plane to fly.   Hooli had told me that and now I believe him.
lazs

[funkedup]

Lazs, after flying Hellcats, where one mistake blows all your energy, and you can't get it back, G6 with its amazing climb rate and acceleration is pretty easy.  That spinner cannon is like a laser beam.    

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[Ripsnort]

If the G6 is so damn easy, then why do rookies choose Spit 9's? Answer: Easiest plane to handle, easiest to shoot from, easiest plane to make a mistake in and still recover.

[K West]

I've been flying the 190-a8 (100% fuel, drop tank and 30mm/20mm combo) for the upcoming scenario a lot. Never flew the bird before and I'm finding it's a sweet shooting ride. I just have to try and stop furballing with it as if it were a Zeke.  I did really find that all my time in Yak, shooting with only a fist full of rounds, has come in quite handy   IMO, if anyone needs to think and talk about lining up the shot and making bullets count in advance it's the Yak and 202 drivers. The others just say they do it cause it's ingrained to, well.. you know  

 Westy

[Ripsnort]

I love the 190-A8, unfortunatley, with all the late war stuff, its outdated for the Main.

[Sachs]

Originally posted by Ripsnort:
I love the 190-A8, unfortunatley, with all the late war stuff, its outdated for the Main.

Interesting there, the A8 and the d9 are my favorite rides, and i would have to say it is not outdated for the MA.  This plane is fun as hell to fly and I love it when someone wants to go for a HO with me in it.

AGJV44 has Fw 190A-8 56 kills Died in Fw 190A-8 14 times
Wotan (squad mate) has Fw 190A-8 45 kills and died in Fw 190A-8 10 times.

[funkedup]

Easiest plane to shoot from is P-47.  Nothing even comes close.   Just point your nose at 'em and turn on the hose.  

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[AKDejaVu]

If the G6 is so damn easy, then why do rookies choose Spit 9's? Answer: Easiest plane to handle, easiest to shoot from, easiest plane to make a mistake in and still recover.

Nobody said the G6 was the easiest... but it is no slouch either.  Many planes in the arena are less forgiving.

AKDejaVu

[Rude]

The P-51 Mustang requires the higher degree of skill and finesse to kill with.

In addition, the most handsome of pilots fly it while the homers and girlscouts fly the LW rides.

Character man...it's all about character. When was the last time ya heard a Pony driver whinin about his ride?

LW turds cry and moan about this and that all the while gettin popped by the Cadillac of the Skies!

 

 

[popeye]

I gotta try that G6.  But, don't your knees get cold in those short pants?

[Wotan]

bs rude

Urchin jumped in a p51 last ran up all kinds of kills even some on guys that fly 51s regularly. p51 is as easy ya can get.

It each plane set there are guys who know there aircraft and can whoop ya.

but if ya just wondered off the street and after flyin with a mouse fer 2 days and now have yer 1st 2.99 joystick spits hogs and 51s are where you'll end up. The newbies in the hogs and 51s will die a little before the "pull stick to belly" spitfires but not by much.

109g6 is easy to kill with the idea is to kill and survive same with the a8 things can go from good to bad so fast that if you dont keep an idea of how the hell to get out your already ded

a g6 cant use speed or its climb to escape g6 climb is the worst climber of all 109s (better then alot of main planes) same with an a8.

One thing I've noticed glasses is usually right.............

[lazs1]

when your knees look as good as mine.... it's a small price to pay.   Still... not a good idea to wear em in the bars I go to.
lazs

[AKSWulfe]

G6 is by far not the easiest LostWaffle plane in the set.

G10 is by far the easiest to fly. In trouble? point that nose skyward and climb like a homesick angel.

Got a Pony closing on you? Hey! Just level out, hit WEP and see ya later.

Simply put, G10 can zoom, climb and out run just about anything. The Dora-9 is a close 2nd with regards to easy to kill with and live with. Then 109G6, then 190A8, 190A5, 109G2 and 109F4.

Now, if you want to talk about relative to other planes- naturally TnBers are the best at evading and attacking.

Then again, it's all how you choose to fight. If I flew a SpitIX the way I fly a P38L, I'd be dead right quick 'cuz of all the La7s, P51Ds and other faster aircraft flying about.

It's all relative...
-SW

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