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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2003, 07:37:40 PM »
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To win a war you must dehumanize your enemy.



Animal, the winner of a war is the one most willing  to part with "acceptable means" and go ballz out for the enemy's heart.  We are finally beginning to realise what the terrorists already know.
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2003, 07:48:02 PM »
Well, what do you expect from Saddam Hussain and his lackeys?

But don't forget, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson agreed that God allowed the September 11th attacks to succeed because of our tolerance for things like abortion and the gay and lesbian lifestyle.

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2003, 08:05:45 PM »
I DO NOT Hate all things Muslim.  Not one thing that I have ever posted even comes close to stating that.  Read, and understand before making such statements.

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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2003, 08:14:49 PM »
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But don't forget, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson agreed that God allowed the September 11th attacks to succeed because of our tolerance for things like abortion and the gay and lesbian lifestyle.

MRPLUTO


Yep, I'll make sure and watch the leader of the American Taliban on Mondays 700 Club to see how he spins this tragedy. ;)

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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2003, 08:51:56 PM »
TWOLF: I DO NOT Hate all things Muslim.  Not one thing that I have ever posted even comes close to stating that.  Read, and understand before making such statements.

 You've said that Iraq should be wiped off the faice of the Earth - with it's population I presume. You did not say anything about muslims, true. I understand that everyone who utters a bad word against your country even under duress of from being deceived must die.

 I guess you believe US opposes some other regimes not because we believe that our ideals of freedom and democracy are superior and good but because we just have the might, otherwise the Hussein's views are just as valid as ours.

 Guess what, in view of most americans the iraqis are victims of the Hussein's regime. After being forcefully kept ignorant and brainwashed and intimidated from birth and being fed stream of hate and desinformation all life long, some of them do get to become hate-filled monsters that you've seem to become all on your own. There is an excuse for them and a good chance that many of them are not truthfull in expressing the anti-american feelings and the rest will see the truth after they are given access to it - like former soviet subjects and other recently liberated people, or germans or japanese.
 Since your xenofobia and blind jingoism are apparently the results of your innate character - after all you have acess to all the info uncensored - there is not much hope for you, I guess.

 American morality does not condone kicking the victims - almost as often as not americans go after criminals/oppressors and help the victims and free the oppressed, even if the victims are temporarily delusional. That's why we are better than Hussein or Hitler or Tojo, not because we can successfully launch big obslete overpriced monstrocities into space with 98.5% success rate.

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2003, 09:19:02 PM »
All I will say is that you don't know me.  You have only seen this thread.  I will not attempt to change your thinking.  But you are wrong in your opinion of me.

But you have that right.

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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2003, 09:54:32 PM »
Iraqi opinion is ..... irrelevant.
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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2003, 11:09:00 PM »
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The "enemy" can be just as capable of honor.
But maybe its easier to visualize them as evil monsters who only dream of doing harm.

To win a war you must dehumanize your enemy.


well said Animal

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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2003, 11:37:40 PM »
thats a thought crime gshultz!

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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2003, 01:02:26 AM »
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They don't live in a civilised state - they live in a 30 year old dictatorship for shreck's sake.


Which was my point - I mis-read your post to be "weazel-ish."

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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2003, 05:25:13 AM »
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"The "enemy" can be just as capable of honor"

Are you talking about the Iraqi Army??   Caught in the desert with their stolen stereos, TV's, cars, pickups, etc., and if not killed outright by Coalition forces,  surrendered in droves by crawling on their bellies begging for mercy???

Yeah, pretty effin "honorable".......

Idiot Lefties............

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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2003, 05:53:41 AM »
Iraqi soldiers surrendered to (among other things) remotely piloted vehicles and unarmed helicopters.

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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2003, 06:40:40 AM »
The biggest mistake you can make in battle is to underestimate your enemy. You better hope your leaders opinnions are not as arrogant and stupid like the couple above. :rolleyes:

The troops that were surrendering had been camping there for weeks with no supply, food or water. They had no hope nor did they probably even want to fight for the dictator whose method of power is keeping his people in fear. However the picture fed to you by the coalition censored and controlled media is not the whole truth. Just as they made people think they were using only smart bombs while about 10% of the payload landed there was 'smart' in any way.

Most of you seem to forget that the picture official Iraqi or US media gives you might not (or most probably doesn't) represent the opinnions and thoughts of an average Iraqian. They suffer under dictatorship with little food and no healthcare to speak of. The average Iraqian might be as excited as you about getting rid of Saddam, but nobody can say it out loud because they'd be shot.

If there will be a war, millions of decent and innocent people will suffer for the stupidity and arrogance of their religious and political leaders. If they had the choice they would change that. They don't.

You people seem to be totally overwhelmed by the propaganda fed to you by the media. It's so easy to bomb another country if you conveniently forget they are people just like you and me. They have families and children just like you and me. They eat and breathe just like you and me. They're not all animals albeit the powers that be up there aren't the brightest of the bunch. If a newspaper writes mocking articles about US because Saddam's propaganda office tells them to, it doesn't mean this is the opinnion of everyone in Iraq.

It's the diddlying religius fundamentalism and the brainwashing that's the root of this whole damn problem.

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« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2003, 07:09:10 AM »
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"The "enemy" can be just as capable of honor"

Are you talking about the Iraqi Army??   Caught in the desert with their stolen stereos, TV's, cars, pickups, etc., and if not killed outright by Coalition forces,  surrendered in droves by crawling on their bellies begging for mercy???

Yeah, pretty effin "honorable".......

Idiot Lefties............

Cabby


If you're able to be more honorable why are you not in the gulf ?

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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2003, 07:22:37 AM »
^ Because i'm planning the invasion of France.........


Actually:  In answer to your non-sequitur,   what does my location have to do with the alleged "honor" of the Iraqi Army??   Or is this just more ignorant bleatings from Anti-American Euro-Trash???

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