Originally posted by Pongo Animals initial assessment."Disguisting freak and sad mutation produced by a rotten society."I aggree with this 100%. if you add a roten upbringing.How can you remove the effect of an adoring public on his developing personality?He has done what he has done to himself and others because he has been tought and conditioned to do so.Certainly by his parents. By his circle of sycophants. And by the public.It seems clear to me. It doesnt excuse his behavior as an adult. But you simply cannot dismiss the effect of all the experiances in his life on his success. He got a nose job and was back on the charts..another nose job and even more success. Easy to lose track of the fact it was his music that got him famous again...he cant write good songs at will..but he can get nose jobs at will.Being so rediculous that adults cring in his company he seeks the company of children.All we know is he is a freak and he has had a life that I wouldnt trade for.Do we know he is a pedophile?