Author Topic: More in the world of sports... sex and drugs at UO (Read 1674 times)

StSanta · « **Reply #45 on:** February 10, 2003, 12:51:04 PM »

It may come of some surprise to you, but people get offered sex and drugs everyday...

I need to emigrate. I don't get offered sex or drugs everyday.

Where should I move?

Btw Russian, I think he was eluding to the fact that border is spelled 'border', not 'boarder'.

Might be wrong - English is my third language after all.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #46 on:** February 10, 2003, 01:32:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
I feel like berating or ridiculing this young man with name calling as has happened here only contributes to the peer pressure all kids face. What message does calling this kid a "popsicle" on these bbs send to our younger members? Really, think this through people.

Well here, lets look at it the way I've been detailing it since I first posted in this thread.

Issue #1) He was offered sex, alchohol and marijuana. Marijuana may or may not have existed. Therefore he was offered sex and alchohol. He apparently did not accept them, or he atleast did not tell the press. If he did, this may alter your perception of his morals, right? Right. However, the reason for him being labelled a popsicle is not that he did not accept the alchohol, weed, or sex... but that he used that as a means to justify him not attending that school. See Issue #2 now.

Issue #2) He says the aforementioned things were the reason he declined attending one school, but he will be attending another. So, when he gets offered the aforementioned things will he drop out of that school and look for another one? No, he won't. This necessitates a call of, "You're full of toejam." on my behalf.

Issue #3) This was obviously just a means for him to gain good public standing amongst those who believe that his morals did indeed influence his decision not to attend UO. Because if his morals were indeed so outstanding, he would find very quickly he will be unable to attend any school in the US, Canada or even the world without being offered sex, alchohol or weed at some point. This therefore is obviously a publicity stunt.

For the 3 points I made above, I have labelled him a popsicle. Not because he did not accept the weed, alchohol, or sex... but because he is indeed a popsicle and full of toejam. So there, case closed... the whole motive behind him not attending UO smells of cow pies and deer pellets.

Santa- I said people get offered drugs and sex everyday, I did not say everyone... there's a significant difference.
-SW

vorticon · « **Reply #47 on:** February 10, 2003, 01:33:27 PM »

ccvi · « **Reply #48 on:** February 10, 2003, 02:12:34 PM »

What I find strange is that he's invited because of football.

Isn't it the usual case that you go to college/university because you're good at what you're going to be taught? I don't think he's going to study "football".

So what kind of nonsense is that?

midnight Target · « **Reply #49 on:** February 10, 2003, 02:52:19 PM »

Amazing how some are missing the point here.

No doubt he will see drugs and loose women in college... duh! That is NOT THE ISSUE.

He was offered drugs and loose women on his recruiting trip. That is the issue. A high school senior should be treated with much more respect and protected to a much greater degree by the coaching staff. OU's staff blew it.

If this guy is a blue chipper the coaches should be tarred and feathered by the rich alumni for not doing their job.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #50 on:** February 10, 2003, 03:23:48 PM »

You missed something MT- regardless if it was his recruiting trip, orientation or third day of classes, the coaching staff is not obligated to follow him around to off-campus and thusly not school sponsored parties to make sure he only sees the side of college that serves only as a front.

He was more than likely with other UO football players and/or freshman recruits when he was at this party.

And so the point of the coaching staff blowing it, did this kid even notify the coaching staff he was going to attend a party?

I highly doubt it, so I hardly see how this is the coaching staff's fault.. or even the schools.

Hence, it is all just a facade.
-SW

Fatty · « **Reply #51 on:** February 10, 2003, 03:37:52 PM »

This has nothing to do with boosters and football, he'd get the same "opportunities" on recruiting trips for minor sports as well.

I know I did.

ccvi · « **Reply #52 on:** February 10, 2003, 03:40:36 PM »

Which sport is best for beeing offered sex?

Advice please.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #53 on:** February 10, 2003, 03:42:42 PM »

I'm pretty sure this wasn't the kid's decision either. Daddy had to have his hands in it.

"Did you like OU son? What'd you do there?"

"Well we toured the campus, spoke with the coaching staff, met the players, met some of the teaching staff, learned the history of the school. Then that night I went out with [insert sophomore, junior or senior tour guide who he more than likely stayed with or was led around by while he was there] and went to a party. There was booze, and weed and sloozies all around!"

"Well, you're not going there then."
-SW

midnight Target · « **Reply #54 on:** February 10, 2003, 03:54:38 PM »

damn... you ARE psychic!

or maybe just wrong.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #55 on:** February 10, 2003, 03:56:14 PM »

Wrong about what? Please enlighten me mastah.
-SW

midnight Target · « **Reply #56 on:** February 10, 2003, 04:02:24 PM »

A blue chip recruit on an authorized (by the NCAA) trip to any school will most likely have his entire schedule planned by the coaching staff. Failing to do this means the staff is screwing the pooch.

My guess is that this kid is probably religious, and since most coaches visit the family home prior to a recruiting trip they should have known what he would be looking for in a school. Sending him off to an unsupervised party was not a very smart thing to do. Assuming the coaches knew nothing about the party is probably wrong too.

Mini D · « **Reply #57 on:** February 10, 2003, 04:13:28 PM »

Well... you've changed from it being just plain wrong to poor planning.

I'm sure blue chip recruits are exposed to the student dorms at some point. I cannot believe this is expressly forbidden nor that its condoned... it just happens. No coach encourages his athletes to do non-preformance-enhancing drugs. But if the hotties are into it...

As for your assumption that he is religious... well... that's pretty funny. I was actually thinking Mormon or Jehova's Witness... but then I thought that was a bit too stereotyping and decided it did not matter.

MiniD

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #58 on:** February 10, 2003, 04:13:52 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Sending him off to an unsupervised party was not a very smart thing to do. Assuming the coaches knew nothing about the party is probably wrong too.

Assuming they could of stopped him isn't a very smart thing to do either.

He's on their time during the day, at night- what are you going to do? Place him behind bars is the only viable option.

But hey, kids go to schools to get an idea of whether or not they're gonna like it... getting to know the people there is just one of the parts of knowing whether or not you will like it, and you tell me a better place to get to know people at that school than a party.

Class time? During your campus tour? Aimlessly walking down the hallways?

No, indeed a party is the best chance. All colleges have parties that atleast include booze. And the fact that the stuff came his way meant people were going out of their way to include him and make him feel welcome. <--- and that is a primary motivating factor behind attending a school, the other one is how good of an education you will get there.

Just because it was offered to him doesn't mean he had to take it. Just because it was around him doesn't mean he couldn't ignore it.

It'll be coming his way at any school he goes to, that much is guaranteed.

I dunno about you, but I can't take someone seriously who says, "Meat is murder!" When they themselves still dine at places that serve meat.
-SW

g00b · « **Reply #59 on:** February 10, 2003, 04:40:29 PM »

Anyone else hearing "like a virgin" from Madonna?

ROFLMAO, only later will he realize what a fool he was. Shame on his parents for depriving him of his youth. Smart parenting prepares a child for the REAL world, not a FANTASY world (and with no drugs or sex not much of a fantasty at that).