Thoughts on why Christianity is fake

[SirLoin]

"The meek shall inherit nothing"

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Originally posted by X2Lee
Riggghttt, then youre point is that all these guys were so stupid that after thier "cult leader" was killed and mocked in front of them that they all would rather die than say he was dead.

They must have all been idiots.
I guess thats kinda your point too.

I would have said hes dead myself.

Unless I saw him alive after he was killed...

No my point is that martyrdom seems to me a lousy indication of the objective truth of a religion. Especially as most of them claim to be the one true religion, and they all have martyrs. Bit of a problem - using this daft "must have 12 martyrs" criteria, all these "one and only true religions" are telling the truth: they are all the only "one true religion".
Patriotism is a good analogy - people are willing to kill and be killed for any cause - it doesn't matter if the cause is just or not - it merely has to be their country's cause. The number of people willing to die for a cause is no indication of how good the cause is. You seem to be saying that the willingness of several people to die for something they saw is all you need to prove that what they saw is true. I'm saying that your argument is a non sequitur: most people "see" the sun go down in the evening, and before copernicus, most of christendom would have been prepared to die for what they "saw": the earth is the centre of the universe. The Xian church was certainly prepared to kill for it. Thousands could be killed or kill either way - it wouldn't make the statement "the earth is the centre of the universe" true.

[lord dolf vader]

having lived in a heavily christian area my whole life. the main proof that there isnt a god is that the god they speak of would never allow them to exist as is. churches have been the source of more evil than pretty much anything else i have seen. ever notice how its always the religious ones screamin for blood?

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by SirLoin
"The meek shall inherit nothing"

Cockroaches are pretty meek.

[Siaf__csf]

Hey, trying to convince a believing person that there is no God is like trying to convince Fox Mulder not to believe..


Lol.

[SOB]

This is perhaps the most retarded religion thread yet.  Why Christianity is "fake"?  Unless you can prove there is no god, you're not going to disprove the Christian faith.  Hell, even if you did, it's still a faith ... meaning belief despite any logical opposition.

Besides, why do you even care.  Why bother disproving something until it is actually proven.  Because as of now, there is no solid proof of the existance of God.


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[lord dolf vader]

i believe he was really talking to the brainwashed piramid scheme that is modern christianity. the actual existance of christ is a blind faith thing, some like to practice blind faith ( and call it other things) but most not indoctrinated young don't.

and as predicted christians come on and make the same tired parroted thinly veiled threats as always.
get over its a confience game he figured it out. some people enjoy amway god bless its the same toejam really,um but keep um far from me thanks.

[funkedup]

So much for religious tolerance.

[SaburoS]

Originally posted by davidpt40
Heres why I think Christianity is fake:

(1) An all-powerful, all-knowing God creates Heaven and Hell.  Hell is supposed to be only for Lucifer and the angels that followed him, but somehow, out of Gods control, EVERY SINGLE HUMAN is destined for hell.

(2) Since the two original humans, created in Gods own image, were tricked into eating a piece of fruit from a tree by Lucifer, man is kicked out of paradise and is forced to work and subsequently die.  Every single human is punished for the faults of Adam and Eve.

Lets just pretend the entire old testament is an allegory.  Now for the New Testament-

(3)  God sends his only son to earth so that people don't have to burn in a fiery pit for eternity.  Yet what does his son do?  He goes around in a very limited area, performing obscure miracles at his leisure.  For some reason Jesus won't perform miracles for disbelievers, even if it means they will spend ETERNITY in a fiery pit.

(4) Jesus is crucified and DIES.  Then he supposedly comes back to life, but what does he do?  He reveals himself to only 3 or 4 people!  What a selfish guy.  Here he has a chance to give the entire world some evidence to believe in God and he won't even do it.

So in summary, Christianity is this-  A God that won't give any evidence of his existance, yet if you don't believe in him 100% you go to a fiery pit called hell where demons torture you.

There is a book out now called "excavating jesus".  In the book, it tells how 'virgin births' were common in Jewish history and how it took 40-100 years after the death of Jesus for people to write about him (and subsequently make his story fit the prophesies).  In actuality, the body of Jesus was most likely eaten by dogs.

I think people believe in Christianity for a few reasons- (1) They are afraid to question the bible (2) They don't want to believe that they wont go to a paradise when they die (3)  They are afraid of going to hell (4) they have no common sense/are uneducated.

LOL, what's next? You're going to go around and tell little kids that Santa Claus doesn't exist?
Perhaps God wants only those with faith to worship him, not those that are forced to.
Have the generousity to allow those of faith to worship and believe in their God(s).
Let's say for the sake of argument that you convert all the believers into non-believers. Do you think that they will stop acting Christian, Catholic, Muslim, etc.? Perhaps it is the person that makes the religion and not the religion making the person.

[Yeager]

God is a creation of man.  I dont trust people I do not know as a general rule.  I dont know Christ, Muhammad or anyone who states they are a direct descendant or relative of God.  Therefor anyone religious has my respect as they choose to believe but I am wary of blind faith in matters other than instinct.

I do believe that the universe is a creation.  I also believe that man evolved along with all other life on this planet.  I also believe that there is a vast likelihood that life has been sparked in other areas of this universe and that there is possibly more that just one universe.  What created our universe I do not know and I may very well never know.  I do hope of course for a greater understanding of this at some point in time.

My favourite passage from the bible is this:

"Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and ye shall be saved."  

This is what it all boils down to and is why I distrust organized faith.  God help us all.

[Sandman]

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[Eagler]

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next thread please ...

can we go back to bashing ragheads?

[hblair]

I used to actually keep up with these bulletin boards. The o'club especially. But after a few years of the same old crap whats the point? Same people crusading for their own retarded internet agenda. People apparently so uncomfortable with their situation that they try to take jabs at peoples religious views?  why? make ya feel good? If so, why? justification?

Even before I became a religious man I couldn't imagine where somebody would get something like this:

churches have been the source of more evil than pretty much anything else i have seen.

lol!

Hey nice jpeg there sandman, you really got us religious idiots good with that one. That'll learn us. Now get back to your usual posting of porn of some unfortuante misled 18 yr. old girl.

[funkedup]

Originally posted by hblair
Even before I became a religious man I couldn't imagine where somebody would get something like this:

They've never been to a church or seen the good work the Lord's people do.
Bigotry wears many guises.

[GRUNHERZ]

While I obviously dont agree with the Christian view of god I'm also shocked at the utter hatred spewed at the whole Christian aspect of western civilization by our own people. Interestingly enough much of this vitriol comes from the so called "tolerant progressive" crowd often the first  ones defending non-western Islam to the last breath in all its recent failings and atrocities.