Author Topic: Tour 20 Fighter Vs stats (Read 985 times)

AKDejaVu · « **on:** October 06, 2001, 07:04:00 PM »

Tour 20 Fighter Stats

The Fighter Vs Fighter and % stats are on the last 3 pages.

Sorry it took so long to get out, but when HTC does something as inconsiderate as release 6 new planes... I have to make adjustments.

AKDejaVu

milnko · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2001, 07:23:00 PM »

As Always your effort is greatly appreicated!

Apar1 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2001, 07:29:00 PM »

WTG DejaVu, S!

Soviet · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2001, 07:36:00 PM »

WTG FW-190 flyers!!

FW-190A-5 has kill/death ratio of 1.4!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2001, 07:42:00 PM »

LOL OMG the SpitV is getting soo much use.

Its utterly amazing that the worst and least competitive vs contemporary enemy (109F and 190A) of all Spit models gets so much use.
Boy oh boy that tell a lot about AH style turn fighting prevalence. And its a late 1941 model to boot.

hazed- · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2001, 10:04:00 PM »

Can we have an admission by those that told us that the perk system would not encourage a more varied arena,or that it wouldnt encourage the use of older models, that they were WRONG?

hmmm i very much doubt it.

Remember the 'Why perk my f4uc!' and the 'I love the f4uc and now i cant fly it' crap?
while we said you can still fly it and that it needed to be controlled so that its use falls more in line with other models.
Well check the stats out.
It sure looks to me as if its worked.8 perks seems to have been a good estimate doesnt it.

<S> AKDV for another good stat page.

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lazs1 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 07, 2001, 10:17:00 AM »

Hmm... 2 planes account for almost 30% of all usage and that's variety? Look at all the planes that are used in the 2% range, is that variety to you? do you feel better being beaten by a hogC if it is rare? I conceed that planes that don't belong in the arena like the 262 are "better" if they are very rare but they it still sucks if your the one who is unlucky enough to have to dodge one. A planes ability is slightly diminished if people can't afford to fly it much and get good in it. other than that... a wolf in amongst the sheep is allways unfair.

Certainly, any number of systems would be better than the idiotic perk system?
lazs

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #7 on:** October 07, 2001, 10:52:00 AM »

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Hmm... 2 planes account for almost 30% of all usage and that's variety?

And this is the fault of the perk system how lazs? Jeez bud... quit your fricking squeaking. The only real way to lessen the % of the top aircraft is to introduce more aircraft period. Wether perked or unperked, it promotes variety. Unfortunately, it also means that some aircraft will be used even less.

Look at the stats and check out the dominance of the perked planes. They are barely used at all... but they are there if people want them. And if people hate to see them so much then why the hell do the stop whatever they are doing to engage them in 10:1 battles. Truth be told, you hate to see them because you know everyone else loves it. It disrupts the type of fun that you want to have because people act downright stupid when they see them. Of course, you'd word it like that but then you'd have to admit being a field general yourself. Not really wanting to admit telling people what to do... just coming here and criticizing it in general.

Its getting very old lazs.

AKDejaVu

hazed- · « **Reply #8 on:** October 07, 2001, 06:51:00 PM »

Spot on AKDV.Laz , What a perfect oppertunity to say 'ok the stats show mch more usage of different models' but you deny what the stats show! look at how much the 109f4,the spit5 and 202 have been used this tour.I cant remember the last time my stats showed a 109f4 kill but ive seen them this time round.
Yes 2 planes are dominating a little but thats still better than 1 and thats IS still more varied than 1.Laz do you struggle in the maths class? I know all those little coloured bricks you have to stack can really be a squeak, especially when they fall down and you have to start again

Just take a second to compare the amount of use the 109f4,spit5,202,zero and the f4ud(

) have had this tour compared to much earlier when we had no perk system or since the f4uc got perked.
I think i have seen and fought a much more varied enemy myself.there was hardly a time i fought the 109f4 before the perk system was started but last 2 tours ive fought 8 or so.

Wotan · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2001, 07:41:00 PM »

didn't see the 190a8 listed in fighter v fighter chart but was easy to figure out.

wtg dejavu

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #10 on:** October 08, 2001, 12:03:00 AM »

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didn't see the 190a8 listed in fighter v fighter chart but was easy to figure out.

It's there... right between the c.205 and Ki-61.

AKDejaVu

MadBirdCZ · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2001, 01:45:00 AM »

Excellent Work!

Soulyss · « **Reply #12 on:** October 08, 2001, 03:03:00 AM »

Great job and thank you as always Deja

btw, you still doing the top 10 killers and K/D ratio stats? always looked forward to seeing who made the top 10. Thanks again man <S>

Urchin · « **Reply #13 on:** October 08, 2001, 03:27:00 AM »

Actually, although I'm a big one to squeak about the lack of diversity in the MA- I gotta agree with Deja here. I really do think it is getting a tad more 'diverse' as time goes on, and it will only get better as HTC adds new planes. I don't see (in the future) most of these new planes getting a whole lot of use (except maybe the Mossie), but they give people more choices. I've taken up flying the F4 as a hobby (lol), it is a nice little plane. Slower than hell and totally outmatched by the SpitIX, but still pretty nice.

I've given up trying to browbeat people into 'diversifying' the MA, now I'm trying to do it myself.

Gremlin · « **Reply #14 on:** October 08, 2001, 03:34:00 AM »

<S> AKDJV. Great Work, love the page tabs!

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