HTC, for 1.07, can you please, PLEASE remove the inflight Radar?

[Beefcake]

I think for gameplay reasons dar should be limited to tower and maybe AWACS planes (if we get them...IE PBY5 Catalina). If this were done, it would make the game much more exicting as once in the air, you would have no idea where the enemy is at, and you must keep your SA up. Whos for it?

[This message has been edited by Beefcake (edited 05-04-2001).]

[Mr. T]

YOu know Beefcake... DJ doesn't "flame" people unless their suggestion is obviously inane or what they want changed could be subverted through using an ounce of intelligence.

Oh yeah, this has been brought up before. Oh yeah, it's been beat to death. Oh yeah, consider this a flame from AKSeaWulfe... I think your idea is stupid.
-SW

[pugg666]

How about limit it to only sector bars inflight, no contact dots..you'll still know where the action is, only you'll have to keep your eyes open and treat every con as if it where a badguy.

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[SOB]

I don't know if I'd like this or not, but it wouldn't bother me if HTC tried it out in the MA for a tour.  Would that be so horrible?

[hblair]

Not a stupid idea at all, in my opinion. I thought it rocked in warbirds, and I think it would spread the fights out here. In-flight radar is just too much intel, in my opinion. Half the fun of a flight simm should be the ability to bounce someone, and this ability is severely hampered with in-flight radar.

Not knowing whether there is a con around, adds to the suspense element.

[funked]

Turn off the dot and bar radar unless you are in the tower, please.  It will create a more realistic and entertaining sim.

[Karnak]

Ya, as everyone know radar didn't exist until after WWII.  The fighter pilots in WWII just flew around randomly until they encountered something.

There are many ways that the radar system could be improved.  Turning it off is not one of them.

Those of you who fly 3-5 hours a day might enjoy having no radar info, but those of us who fly .5-1 hour a day would no longer be able to participate.  I can't justify using my very limited free time to fly around hoping to run into a con so that I can fight.

I would like to see a "below 500 feet, no dot and no dar show up" mod to the current radar system.

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[Mr. T]

As far as "in tower" radar goes....

diddly it, just turn the whole thing off. We all know how cooperative everyone is in the game, asking where the fight is from someone inside the tower isn't gonna work.

I can count on both feet and hands the number of times I've logged in and asked a question "What is going on at xxx field?" and the same number of times not gotten a reply.

I simply don't do it anymore.

Setup up current radar for no bar under 300 feet and flying through mountain ranges or close to the tops of mountains and you've got yourself a winner.

As of now, you show up on bar radar below 300ft (or whatever it is) and if you are flying over mountain ranges (like 100 feet above the top of a mountain) you still show up as a dot. Even flying through canyons (radar would have a squeak of a time working in there) you show up on dot radar.

-SW

[hblair]

I logged onto my first online simm in warbirds in the fall of '98. There were 230+ in the main arena at that time, and I never once heard anyone complain that they couldn't view it from their airplane.

We all squeak and whine about the nastiness on the radio. Well, over in that other simm, they use their radio to tell their countrymen where the fight is. When guys replane, they check dar, and let the guys know what is going on.

Please don't just say it sux unless you know what the heck you're talking about. Lets try to keep this discussion based on facts. I'm sure HT has good reasons for the way it is, I've heard he is not flexible on it. I hope he reconsiders if this is the case.

Karnak, if you fly for 30 minutes, do you really think the fight is gonna evaporate from the time you look at radar in the tower (or maproom), and the time you get to the fight?

HTC has built a great game, and I'm glad to be here, don't get me wrong, I just remember the good times in the WB's main and historical arena. You actually had to check your six...

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[hblair]

 

Originally posted by Mr. T:
diddly it, just turn the whole thing off. We all know how cooperative everyone is in the game, asking where the fight is from someone inside the tower isn't gonna work.

-SW

You'd be very surprised my friend.

[pugg666]

That's why i'm saying at least leave the sector bars in flight...it lets you know something is there, not specifically where it is (25x25 miles is a fairly big area even for a fighter cruising at 350 true)

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[Qnm]

I would certainly enjoy (ie ~1/3 of time online) flying recon for the country in a radar plane (if all other dar was unavailable, or only also in tower)like PBY Cat, it's a nice break from DFing.

Wouldn't this make for more strategism?

[AKDejaVu]

I'm all for no sector bars for NOE flying.. that's something that is not used enough in AH.

Most the rest I'd leave as is.  Most of the raids I see anymore involve the base's radar dish being taken out first.  Voila.. no more cons.

And, kiss my bellybutton beefcake... any other handles there?

AKDejaVu

[Mr. T]

 

Originally posted by hblair:
You'd be very surprised my friend.

Unless it pops out of a huge cake with booby tassles(and has REAL boobies...) on it and gives me a lap dance with free beer.... well I won't be surprised...

BUT if people were cooperative on this issue and I could wrassle a response out of them (Give me 30 minutes of pointless banter on ch1 and I can usually find a fight or start one <G> ) then MAYBE in tower would work.

Thing about WB(v.91->2.0) was, it had... what 4 fields per side? (excluding med map, but I think that only had maybe 6 fields per side)... so there was a fight going on at one of those fields and it didn't require you to go very far to find it.

Don't need dot radar, but bar radar with _THIS_ many fields is a neccessity.
-SW

[Mark Luper]

I sat here wondering what it is that make people, same people that would probably be nice to have a beer with one on one, immediatley jump on anything a poster says with as much a negative attitude as they do. On top of that to follow it up with a string of vulgarities in an additional post.

What gives people? Why the chip on the shoulder?

It's gotten to the point that I automaticaly start bypassing those people's posts in any thread. Got to where what they say can pretty well be anticipated so it has lost any meaning to me.

The poster on this thread has obviously been bitten before so he did start it with some negativity himself, but at least the topic is worth discussing.

I do like the radar arrangement in WB, one of the very few things I still like about that game, at least I assume it is still that way, havn't flown it since AH came about.

The early beta radar we had here was pretty cool too without the dot dar. It would show you there was activity in the sector but not specificaly where. Still left some chance to it.

No sector bars or dot dar under 300 or 500 feet would be nice, it would allow the element of surprise.

Several different ways to do it I guess. Some better than others, at least in my opinion.