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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2003, 04:53:29 PM »
Very good post StSanta. 100% agreed.

And here is something to think about - every time the people here disagree on something that they cant refute, they will simply start making "hilarious" statements to deviate the original purpose of the thread in an attempt to make the arguement loose validity.


Oh, and Toad, good points.

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2003, 05:08:34 PM »
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Very good post StSanta. 100% agreed.

And here is something to think about - every time the people here disagree on something that they cant refute, they will simply start making "hilarious" statements to deviate the original purpose of the thread in an attempt to make the arguement loose validity.


Oh, and Toad, good points.


Or, some statements just invoke hilarity. But hey, who doesn't enjoy a good laugh? Uh oh, did I do it again?
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2003, 05:23:50 PM »
Its ok I'm cool with it :)
I do it too.

Just an observation.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2003, 05:25:56 PM »
And an astute one at that. :)
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Re: Re: Yanks; sometimes I wonder...
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2003, 05:32:54 PM »
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Originally posted by Toad
Some substance:


What we find annoying is:

1. point
a. point
1. point
2. point
b. point
c. point
1. point
2. point
3. point
2. point

 


1.  good points
a. what the heck
2. kind of
c. numbering system
IV. is that?

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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2003, 05:36:39 PM »
A 4 place cessna crashed in a cemetary in Denmark.
So far they have recovered 876 bodies and the death toll is rising...

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2003, 05:39:42 PM »
Hehe, heard that one before.
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2003, 05:56:02 PM »
:p

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A 4 place cessna crashed in a cemetary in Denmark.
So far they have recovered 876 bodies and the death toll is rising...
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2003, 06:28:23 PM »
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Originally posted by 10Bears

a. Has some serious WMD and is working on more including nukes

Not according to Gen. Hussein Kamel who in 1995 told U.N. inspectors
that Iraq had DESTROYED ITS ENTIRE STOCKPILE of chemical and biological
weapons and banned missiles, as Iraq claims.
 


So tell me 10Bears...if they destroyed everything they had back in 95...how come the inspectors found mustard gas a couple of weeks ago?

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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2003, 06:58:40 PM »
gawddammit, santa, just when we have the axis of weazils all boxed up and ready to send ta hell, COD; you pop in with some noise about us badmouthin all of europe.

We ain't pissed at poland, are we??

There's even some pizzaria in denmark that won't serve frogs or kraut till the tourist season starts.

butterin A, we know who our friends are. Theres at least 6-7 folks in europe that don't hate us. We know who they are. We sent 'em condoms and silk stockings. (Hortland.. yer sex wax is on back order)

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whereas Europe is a continent full of ungrateful nations with people wearing clogs or leather, or possibly clogs made out of leather.


We know the diffrence between the Luftwaffe and the dutch. You must be confused.

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We're pissed.


You seem to have gotten that part right.

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And Europe isn't pissed like us.


Of course not. Who in hell can get pissed on that stinky foamy beer. That toejam just gives us a headache. You guys ain't even gotta deal with a decent hangover. And don't get me started on Perrier.. even my alchoholic cat won't touch those little green bottles of vichy pee the morning after.

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Euros love Saddam Hussein and everyone not in favour of the war are in favour of Hussein. We're pissed and irrational - therefore we are right'.


Well, toejam, the guy dresses like he's a Legionaire, WTF is up with that? And try gettin as pissed as we are, see how butterin rational you sound... (did i just say what i thought he said?)

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'We're the mightiest nation on earth and we have 250 different kinds of toilet paper, including really fluffy stuff.


When Mr. Whipple see this, he's gonna be pissed too. You miserable Danewuss, you didn't even mention two-ply hugahunk.
Now, we're gonna have to TP yer butterin country tonight.

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We don't need the UN and Europe with its puny economy can go to hell.


Well, yah got that part right, too. Thanks fer stayin with the ratio quota. ;)

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They don't even bother to check the facts; Spain is in Europe. UK is in Europe. Denmark is in Europe. Same with former Soviet 'colonies'.


Unless yah bomb us, we really don't give a toejam where yah are. But if yah do bomb us... we'll find out EXACTLY where yah are. ;)

Some reporter is reputed to have remarked to Colin Powell that only 10% of americans even know where the hell iraq is on the map. Powell replied.. "..and the bad news for iraq is that 10% happens to be in the US military." As long as we can play 'smack the towelhead' anywhere on the planet from Whiteman AFB, who the butter cares where yah are? We don't need to know where Spain, Denmark and Lithuania is.. the Air Force knows.

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To put it in a way so that those involved will understand it; yer current way of arguing isn't winning anyone over and to an objective observant, there's very little differentiating your style of posting and logic from that of for instance Straffo and blitz. You think they come off as fanatic nutters? Not only them, matey.


Well, Jeezus butterin popsicle! You just now catchin on to the dismal fact that americans are as nutty as the proverbial fruitcake? You ever see ANY hollywood movies?? Fer gawdsakes, man, we're ALL diddlyin nutcases! We've been warnin the world for 50 gawdamned years.. "we're scary-crazy. we have nukes. don't piss us off!". Is there ANYTHING we've done in the past 50 years that would indicate that we're playin the game with the full deck?

Dammo.. have I been shouting up my own bellybutton fer a turd burger fer three years here and accomplished NOTHIN???..  

now i'm depressed.

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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2003, 07:08:48 PM »
Ok I'm gonna start calling them Frogrutabagas and Krautrutabagas.  :)

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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2003, 07:29:42 PM »
Relatively few people on this board have argued the subject.  Virtually all that have argued it have been somewhat boisterous.  People are generalising based on the people they are aguing with instead of the people in general.

That has worked both ways Santa as your assesment and your tone reflect.

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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2003, 07:34:13 PM »
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So tell me 10Bears...if they destroyed everything....



Hortland I gotta ask you a serious question... Are you diddlying the president of the United States?... no seriously.. are you?.. Your country sure isn't going for any of this nonsense... they'd vote same as France/Germany/Russia/China/Turkey... and pretty much the rest of the world.

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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2003, 11:06:35 PM »
MT, it didn't format correctly. There are points and subpoints beneath some of those and sub-sub points beneath some of those. You'll have to muddle through.

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« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2003, 11:47:33 PM »
10B,

If you think Iraq does not have combat ready chemical and biological weapons you are mistaken. If you think they do not have an ongoing nuke weapon research program you are mistaken.

I'm aware of Israel's violation of UN sanctions and I've posted in the O-Club on it before. They should be made to comply. However, that is not the question before the SC right now, is it? Nor has ANY of the SC permanent members or rotating members put it before the SC in the recent past, have they?

He is dragging his feet. He's BEEN dragging them for 12 years. My comments are in response to Santa's post which deals with a situation that has been going on for 2 months. The failure to disarm has been going on 12 years and the destruction of the Al Samoud's has been going on 2 days. You'll notice that so far no UN inspectors have been present or have confirmed destruction of the missiles.

However, I do agree that raising the bar is wrong.

Point is he does have demonstrated record of invading his neighbors when he feels the time is right. Kuwait is all the proof you need of that.

Does it strike you as odd that a nation sitting on a gazillion petrodollars waiting to be harvested is starving? Agriculture in Iraq is not going to improve when the bulk of the emphasis is placed on building weapons (and hiding the $ in private accounts; current estimates are that Saddam will put nearly $3 billion in private accounts this year (60 minutes).

The treatment of Al Qaeda prisoners at Gitmo lost us the moral high ground? The Patriot Act lost us the moral high ground.

Can you possibly believe what you write?

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Amnesty International has over the years received numerous reports of torture and interviewed hundreds of torture victims. The organization has also published many reports documenting a wide range of human rights violations in the country, including torture and ill-treatment.

Victims of torture in Iraq have been subjected to a wide range of forms of torture. The bodies of many of those executed had evident signs of torture, including the gouging out of the eyes, marks of severe beatings and electric shocks to various parts of the body, when returned to their families. Some detainees died as a result of torture. Many torture victims now live with permanent physical or psychological damage.


Yeah, go ahead and compare the treatment of prisoners at Gitmo to this... and tell me about morality again. Sheesh.

GENOCIDE IN IRAQ The Anfal Campaign Against the Kurds Human Rights Watch  

Here's some "spin" from Human Rights Watch. You might want to read it. It's very long and detailed; 13 chapters and it is footnoted.

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Why were the women and children only killed in certain areas? Did their execution reflect patterns of combat and resistance, or was some other criterion used? Where are the graves of all those who died, and how many bodies do they hold?

The answer cannot conceivably be less than 50,000, and it may well be twice that number. When Kurdish leaders met with Iraqi government officials in the wake of the spring 1991 uprising, they raised the question of the Anfal dead and mentioned a figure of 182,000--a rough extrapolation based on the number of destroyed villages.

Ali Hassan al-Majid reportedly jumped to his feet in a rage when the discussion took this turn. "What is this exaggerated figure of 182,000?" he is said to have asked. "It couldn't have been more than 100,000"--as if this somehow mitigated the catastrophe that he and his subordinates had visited on the Iraqi Kurds.15


We're not talking one gas attack here. We talking about a planned program to eliminate the Kurds that was systematically carried out on orders from Hussein. This was no "accidental crossfire". Or do you think HRW is making it all up?

If Bush gets indicted, it'll be real interesting. Because a case can well be made that this is merely the completion of the first Gulf War SC resolution. Iraq did not comply with the terms negotiated at the end of the war. But basically that whole presumption is so far out as to be beyond comprehension. It's more stuff thrown up in the air to obscure.
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