HT protects AH!!

[Raptor]

HiTech wrote:

 

I've already ruled out anyone
from finland being one of my alpha testers, just because of itmo.In fact as
im sitting here pondering things I've just decided that I realy don't want
any supporters of the free host to be an AH player. Time to start a log of
freehost supporter's so they can be blocked from our service. Think i'll
make the same suggestion to IMOL.

HiTech

WTG HT!!  I've already spotted some people using FH that I never would have expected to use it.  I will be forwarding names of these people to maintain the integrity of AH.

Raptor XO
305th BG (H)

[suppo-]

Huh Raptor?

Don't put my two cents worth in very often, but,

1.  Where is this quote from...can u explain?

2.  Why is it in forum and not private to him?  What's the point?

As long as you've come this far in the forum, how about some elaboration for those of us who don't live perennially in the flight sim world.

Thanks!

[Thermo]

Start the Witch Hunt....Burn em !!!

Honestly, I have not played WB's in 6 months or so but I don't mind people using the 'freehost' so much.

It's very popular, someone should think of a way to make money off it, trying to bury it just might make it more likely to resurface.

JHL

[Horn]

 

WTG HT!! I've already spotted some people using FH that I never would have expected to use it. I will be forwarding names of these people to maintain the integrity of AH.

Raptor XO
305th BG (H)

Integrity of AH?
Rubbish! It is a free market. Whining doesn't make it go away. "Exclusion lists" won't make it go away. The Freehost peeps saw an avenue and they are using it. Why not? It is a helluva lot cheaper than WB. Works, too from what I've heard.
Instead of whining, learn a lesson. Make the next version un-"freehostable"-- and make the next product so attractive that the freehost players will flock to it, no matter the cost. Lead by example. Leave 'em in the dust.

DH

[Raptor]

That quote came from  news://ugly.dsl.suomi.net/freehost.general .  You go read it then come back here and post again.

Rap

[This message has been edited by Raptor (edited 08-15-1999).]

[Rock]

I don't blame HT one bit for doing this. Probably the only thing he can do about freeloadhost(no, this won't stop it, only raising the moral standards of a freehost pirate a notch would), short of throwing gobs of money at a lawyer and that wouldn't stop it either.
Didn't read much on the ugly-fh-news server but, I read enough.
I think most of them have no intention of paying to play a game, no matter how good.
Just a bunch of bottom feeding scum bags and HiTech has every right to keep them out of the AH world.
HiTech made a brave trek into the freehost newsgroup and was spat upon and ridiculed but, he did not stoop to their level and maintained his cool. <SALUTE>

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WarBirds and DOA squads
332nd Flying Mongrels
Jagdstaffel 9 Kreighundz
   




[This message has been edited by Rock (edited 08-15-1999).]

[Corvet]

Just read some of that stuff about the WB Freehost.

Keep them out HT. Whatever it takes.

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FLY CANUCK!
416rcaf.org

[Quixotic]

I think the freehost players can be safely described as Quakers.  These people aren't interested in the long term survival or improvement of the on-line air-combat simulator.  They are primarily interested in a cheap thrill and, in a few weeks or months when the novelty has passed, they will move on to another game.  The damage however will already be done, and companies like HTC will not be able to put out a flight sim and make it financialy viable.

There are, however, people who ARE interested  in the flight sim over the long run and, who are interested in paying to see that people like Hitech are working to provide us with the best on-line gaming experience possible.

I sincerely hope that HTC can develop a product which will not be subject to this type of 'cheating'.

Quixotic

[suppo-]

This is the result of my clicking on the URL you have in your post Rap.

"Not Found

The requested object does not exist on this server. The link you followed is either outdated,
inaccurate, or the server has been instructed not to let you have it. Please inform the site
administrator of the referring page."


You told me to check it and come back and post.  Now what do you have to tell us now?

Is this real?  worth pursuing?  Or is it a waste of our time?

Help me out here.  I just asked a simple question.

[juzz]

It's a newsgroup, I had to set it up through Outlook to read it. The link puts a http:// in front so it doesn't work correctly.

I think people are making too much out of this freehost program - I doubt it will ruin the chances of future online sims like AH.

[Topcat]

I'd love to see all FH players banned, but how would you know who was playing?  Callsign?  That's not entirely reliable (open to abuse from malicious individuals), and all you'd have to do would be to change your callsign to play AH.

Better still - find a better way to stop (slow down) the hackers.  Learn from the mistakes of the past and move on to the brighter future, which should include not one, not two, but three great sims!

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Topcat
249 Squadron RAF "Gold Coast"
With Fists and Heels
Tangmere Wing

[Jochen]

 

I've already ruled out anyone
from finland being one of my alpha testers, just because of itmo.

Well this is just shrecking great!  

I'm from Finland so I guess I'm excluded automatically, even when I have never seen itmo in person and I haven't used freehost never ever? But Russians are still allowed I guess?

Take a look of my Warbirds and Aces High pages. Can anyone imagine how long I did spend time to gather all that information about Warbirds planes? I also had the first ever (tm) Aces High pages waiting for stuff to appear so I can put it to those pages for curious folks who might be interested playing this new game?

Do those pages look like work of man who want's to ruin companies running those games?

I feel very dissapointed because I'm excluded from being possible alpha tester just because I live in same country as some hacker  

I have and will put much more time to my Aces High pages. Now this feels like slap in the face!

 

In fact as im sitting here pondering things I've just decided that I realy don't want any supporters of the free host to be an AH player. Time to start a log of
freehost supporter's so they can be blocked from our service. Think i'll make the same suggestion to IMOL.

I supported freehost for about 2 days until facts started to come out. I guess I have no place in AH community?  

When the freehost came to public, I personally think it as a positive thing because I thought it had something to new to offer for IMOL. Better damage model, more advanced ammo loadouts etc. Quickly it came apparent that all was not as advertized, itmo did not inform IMOL in advance as it was originally thought. After that I reversed my opinion quite dramatically.

Itmo said at the time that he will not develop freehost any further but that has shown to be a lie, new versions are pouring out right now. I was completely wrong in case of itmo's motivations. I feel bad that I ever expressed my thoughts that his achievement might be good thing for IMOL.

But everlasting ban to Aces High seems little harsh.

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[This message has been edited by Jochen (edited 08-16-1999).]

[MrHanky]

itmo turned me into a newt.  "A newt you say?" Yes, a newt....well, I got better.  BURN HIM!!!!

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http://members.xoom.com/jms546
The Pale Horses Squadron
"...and the rider's name was death."

[Sascha JG 77]

I'm just a dweeb, so fill me in:

How exactly does freehost work? Does it simulate a WB online session on a LAN or can you use it to connect on the internet "for free" too?

N.B.: I am NOT interested in using this thing, just trying to understand the "Freehost-Debate".

I can t quite understand BTW why you would bann an entire COUNTRY from Alpha-Test/Gameplay just because Freehost was written by someone from that country. What s the backround on this?

Sascha

[Jochen]

 

I can t quite understand BTW why you would bann an entire COUNTRY from Alpha-Test/Gameplay just because Freehost was written by someone from that country. What s the backround on this?

Beats me too  

Before this I thought that Finns were natural part of online WW II sims, after all we invented the infamous Flaxpanzer oil!

But judging all Finns by actions of one is little, well, prejudiced.

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Obfr. jochen 'Stern von Afrika' 2./ Jagdgeschwader 27 'Afrika'