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Offline -tronski-

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« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2003, 07:56:54 AM »
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Well obviously they are wrong since the sanctions are ordered by the UNSC in accordance to the UN treaty. It is pretty damn irrelevant what some UN sub committe thought about the sanctions and their relation to international law.


A UN commissioned report in 2001 is wrong purely because of sanctions imposed in 1990?

Wrong because 30% of food for oil monies are taken by the UNCC, not used to buy medical supplies?

Wrong because UNICEF said the number of child deaths has doubled since sanctions?

Or wrong because you just don't agree?

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« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2003, 08:00:35 AM »
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Or wrong because you just don't agree?
 

Wrong because it says the sanctions are illegal according to  international law.
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« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2003, 08:04:39 AM »
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hmmm...  a year or so ago, you called them "ragheads", and now, you're saying you care about Iraqi poeple ?

BS.


I don't remember doing that; it's not really my style.

Beyond that, if I did, it still doesn't change the fact that Saddam is the worst thing to happen to the Iraqi people this century.

I don't have to love them like brothers to realize that everybody would be better off if the Iraqi people had a better life than they do now under Saddam.

Don't miss the point.

Iraq is suffering BECAUSE OF SADDAM. The sanctions, the threat of war..... ALL OF THAT........ is directly because of Saddam. Had he stayed out of Kuwait or retreated when he was ASKED to leave, NONE of this would be going on.

Instead he chose to try and hold Kuwait and finally got the war he was looking for... the "mother of all battles".  With it came rapid defeat, UN sanctions and UN weapons inspectors.

NOW, after 12 years of defying the UN again, he's about to cause MORE suffering for the Iraqi people.

Focus. It's SADDAM that's causing the Iraqi people to suffer.

And you don't have to have any emotional attachment to them at all to see that.
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2003, 08:05:20 AM »
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No more secret police torturing and murdering people...


Torture! They torture people, which is bad if Saddam's henchmen do it, but good if the CIA or their henchmen do it.

This is so confusing. It's almost as if many people on this board are hypocritical or something.
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« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2003, 08:10:47 AM »
My appologies Mr Toad, I mixed you up with some one else on this board (cfr 'raghead' statement).....I know it''s not the 1st time I do this...

Gimme a sec to edit my above posts.
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« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2003, 08:11:06 AM »
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Torture! They torture people, which is bad if Saddam's henchmen do it, but good if the CIA or their henchmen do it.

This is so confusing. It's almost as if many people on this board are hypocritical or something.


LOL nice try Dowding. Now point me to a post by me where I have said that it would be good if CIA tortured people.
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« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2003, 08:17:05 AM »
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Wrong because it says the sanctions are illegal according to  international law.


Bah, and you accuse straffo of always dodging questions

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« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2003, 08:17:27 AM »
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My appologies Mr Toad, I mixed you up with some one else on this board (cfr 'raghead' statement).....I know it''s not the 1st time I do this...

Gimme a sec to edit my above posts.


Why thank you! I appreciate that!
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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2003, 08:25:24 AM »
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Bah, and you accuse straffo of always dodging questions

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So what did I dodge?

The report said the sanctions were illegal, I say that is BS. What did I dodge? (serious question)
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« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2003, 08:29:07 AM »
hey "Quotemaster" would you be kind enough to edit your above posts. (see my note for Toad)

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2003, 08:32:57 AM »
Again, we need to focus.

How could the sanctions have easily been avoided?

How could the sanctions be quickly and easily ended right now?

It all comes back to the same person, gentlemen. There's ONE person that's screwing up the Iraqi people.

Saddam Hussein.
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« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2003, 08:49:46 AM »
Is that enough Saw?
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« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2003, 10:30:35 AM »
Thanks!
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