Author Topic: Blix "forgot" to report smoking gun?  (Read 902 times)

Offline Hortlund

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« on: March 10, 2003, 12:21:08 PM »
I dunno...if this is true Blix should be quartered in the town square back home.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-605557,00.html

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The British and US ambassadors plan to demand that Hans Blix reveals more details of a huge undeclared Iraqi unmanned aircraft, the discovery of which he failed to mention in his oral report to Security Council foreign ministers on Friday. Its existence was only disclosed in a declassified 173-page document circulated by the inspectors at the end of the meeting — an apparent attempt by Dr Blix to hide the revelation to avoid triggering a war.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2003, 12:31:45 PM »
Anyone know if this is real?  I can't say I have alot of faith in British reports these days.

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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2003, 12:32:50 PM »
Its in the 173 pages long UN report. Blix did not mention it during his oral report.

It's starting to hit the major news sites now. CNN has it up if you want to check it there.

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2003, 12:36:04 PM »
Just saw it there (CNN) too.

Sigh... so much for objectivity.

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2003, 12:42:43 PM »
I also saw in that CNN article that Iraq was re-tooling missiles for chemical/biological use.  This is awfully strange.  I seem to remember a 12,000 page report that stated categorically that Iraq had no more banned weapons.

Maybe....just maybe...Iraq lied.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2003, 12:46:09 PM »
Some bombs have now been found capable of delivering chemical/biological agents.... see fox news for info
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2003, 12:47:46 PM »
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Its existence was only disclosed in a declassified 173-page document circulated by the inspectors at the end of the meeting


Blix didn't hid it it's in the freakin' report. What's the matter these people don't know to read?..

What's he supposed to do read the entire report page per page? Besides UAVs are not considered WMD.

Nice try Hortland... sheeeh..

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2003, 12:48:17 PM »
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Just saw it there (CNN) too.

Sigh... so much for objectivity.

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Heh. Surely you didn't expect Blix to be objective, did you? It was apparent from about day 2 that he had his own agenda, and it didn't coincide with the mandate he was charged with, which was to verify Iraq's supposed disarmament, not go on an Easter-egg hunt (no pun intended).

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2003, 12:51:02 PM »
Ummmm... if they can excede 150km they are considered delivery vehicles 10bears.

You really should give up trying to excuse this one away and ask yourself why new development of this particular item would be left out of Blix's public report.

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2003, 12:56:16 PM »
Who else thinks that if we do invade and find illegal weapons, that france and other nations will call it a setup and say we "placed" the evidence?

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2003, 12:57:46 PM »
Blix wants a 30 year contract to chase weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.  Ya can't get one of those unless there's going to be an Iraq.....so what ya spect him ta do eh?  

Hey....keeps him feeling important and in the limelight :D
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2003, 01:01:38 PM »
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Blix wants a 30 year contract to chase weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.  Ya can't get one of those unless there's going to be an Iraq.....so what ya spect him ta do eh?  

Hey....keeps him feeling important and in the limelight :D


Does that make Hans Blix the Ken Starr of the UN?

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2003, 01:02:42 PM »
Well I saw it in the Daily Mirror, so it must be true - LOL.

No surprises really. My opinion of the UN since 1991 has not been flattering. The question that now needs to be asked is what else has Blix failed to report? Seems like we can't believe anyone. First Saddam says he has no WMD and then begins to destroy the very weapons he claimed he never had, and now we have the UN/Blix redrawing the lines on the playing field if not moving the goalposts around.

The only way to sort out this mess is for our guys to go in there and get him out of there.

Hmmph. Wonder what the peaceniks think of this. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2003, 01:07:10 PM »
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Blix didn't hid it it's in the freakin' report. What's the matter these people don't know to read?..

What's he supposed to do read the entire report page per page? Besides UAVs are not considered WMD.

Nice try Hortland... sheeeh..


You really should read that report. You can find it on the UN site. I'm in the process of doing that right now (Im on page 17).

Here is the link.

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/


Here is a fun quote from Saddam I found in that report:
”I say that if Israel dares to hit even one piece of steel ona ny industrial site, we will make the fire eat half of Israel. (...) Let them hear, here and now, that we do possess binary chemical weapons which only the United States and Soviet Union have”.
Saddam Hussein 2 April 1990

That quote is the reason why there is a 150km range ban on all Iraqi delivery vehicles...be they rockets, UAVs or catapulted camels.

Now, here is the actual text from the report.
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UNMOVIC has recieved intelligence reports of the development, during the past four years, of UAVs and RPVs that exceed the 150 kilomteres limit. In fact, one report describes a UAV with a range of 500 kilometers.

Iraq has not declared the develipment of any UAV. However it has declared that it developed during the past few years, two new RPV’s with a range of 100 kilometers. The stated design goal for one of the RPV’s, designated by Iraq as “RPV-20”, was to create a drone with an endurance of one hour that han an anutonomous system for guidance and control with GPS navigation. Recent inspections have also revealed the existance of a drone with a wingspan of 7.45 meters that has not been delcared by Iraq. Officials at the inspection site stated that the drone had been test flown.  


Ok, so if that drone has a range beyond 150 (which it does) AND the Iraqis have been caught trying to hide it (which they have...that is what the "not been declared" part means)...what would that mean to you?

Because to me it means they have been caught. Period.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2003, 01:12:56 PM »
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Anyone know if this is real?  I can't say I have alot of faith in British reports these days.

MiniD


report just in from a NON-CNN reporter........

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