Bush and his 'Bunch of Liars'

[blitz]

We can't just say Bush & crew are a 'Bunch of Liars' as they told already about a year ago that they will force a war with Iraq 'With the UN or without them' ......



They only tried to hide behind UN and abuse it after they decided long ago to go for their very own targets.

They failed miserably politically and now they use their military force to reach very questionable political goals.

A sovereign country is attacked by a superpower to change their political regime by violence.

There's no UN resolution now or in the past to back that.

This is no defence war its an 'Angriffskrieg'!

Bush wants to get rid of an old buddy who was at least as bad  when supportet by the USA as he is now. He killed 125000 iranian soldiers with the WMDs, which components were sold by western countries such as Germany, USA, France.
US didn't care about his WMD use at that time.
Even more suspicious they blocked an UN resolution to condemn Irak at that time for WMD use.

This war is fought for other main reasons as freedom and democrazy of Iraq people.
If it wasn't only for propaganda reasons what  US government told us about the democratic future of Kuwait before the last gulf war they had forced the 'liberated' Kuwait to got rid of their repression regime within the last 10 years.
Same goes for the democratic regimes of Pakistan and Egypt, still your bigtime friends.

This war isn't fought because Iraq has anything to do with Al Queida because their isn't the slidest proof of that.

This war isn't fought mainly for oil, but oil is 1 of the reasons or do you really think USA would go there if they had only sandclocks to sell?

The main reasons for me is Paul Wolfowitz stategy paper out of the late 80ties.

Time has come to gain much more power in this world for the neoconservative falkons in the white house.

Will that be good or bad for the world? Nobody knows.
But history shows that might corrupts pretty well.
It's always good to have a competition to have some balance.
After the end of the cold war there is a power vacuum and the Rumbsfelds and Wolfowitzs of the US government try to use it for their benefit.

The criminal attack on the WTC just came in handy for them.
As i see it, the 3000 innocent victimes are abused by the very right political spectrum of the USA. American people are kept in fear and panic by an irresponsible government. Shame on them.

I hope Saddam Hussein leaves his country to avoid a war and  to save his miserable live.
If not i hope  this war is over very quick and there are only a few people  to die on both sides.

This war can be horrible for iraq people.

This war is a politicall desaster for the world.




........What we can say though is: ' Bush and his warmongers are a Bunch of Blackmailers'


Imho Blitz


There aren't 'Soft Targets' , it's people you are killing.

'Collateral Dammage' :which idiot invented that phrase? It's women, children and old men who will be teared apart.


America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[Ripsnort]

You need to do a better cut and paste of someone elses post on your socialist UBB's, Blitz, so that the sentences are fluid, one right after the other, and paragraph indentations, that way it will appear that you actually wrote this post.

[Rasker]

IMHO the Iraqi lives lost in the unfortunate need to evict the current regime by force will be far less than the number that would have been lost had the Butcher been allowed to remain in place.  I just hope that Saddam's subordinates care enough about their own lives to refuse orders to unleash WMD's upon their own people in Baghdad.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
You need to do a better cut and paste of someone elses post on your socialist UBB's, Blitz, so that the sentences are fluid, one right after the other, and paragraph indentations, that way it will appear that you actually wrote this post.

No socialist UBB reading here, only Prawda


Regards Blitz

[ra]

A sovereign country is attacked by a superpower to change their political regime by violence.

Iraq is a sovereign country which has brought on this war.  It has been in a cease fire with the US for 10+ years, and one of the conditions it agreed to all those years ago was that it would prove to UN inspectors that it had destroyed all of it's WMD.   It hasn't done so, now comes the war again.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by blitz
No socialist UBB reading here, only Prawda


Regards Blitz

Oh Blitz!  (And I thought using CNN as a lone source was bad)

[Eaglecz]

Originally posted by Rasker
IMHO the Iraqi lives lost in the unfortunate need to evict the current regime by force will be far less than the number that would have been lost had the Butcher been allowed to remain in place.

actualy you appear to know a lot.....
you are one of those guys whos consider winner, with less dead people arent you ?



btw we arent just awoken euros... we are whinning about US`s international politic for long years..


but do you know what i do not see Blitz ???
How is possible ,that Spain supoprt them, while 93% of population is agains.....
and Did you see Blair in last days ??? i guess he is already sorted with fact, that he will be kicked out

our president today said, that he will present attitude of our people and not what he do consern as good for us....

im not wondering that US living in our country do call this country free in comparation with US



btw do you realize that even if Sadam will use WMD, that people will point on US, that US is responsible per it ?

anyway Blitz its hard hobby to try make those "smart guys" thinking from diferent point of view isnt it ?

[john9001]

germany and france lose again, this is getting to be a habit.

[Eaglecz]

Originally posted by blitz
No socialist UBB reading here, only Prawda


Regards Blitz

actualy Pravda in our language, but we are not so eastern

[Tumor]

Fish fish fish... troll troll troll... blah blah blah

[Curval]

Prawda is in no way a good source...it's just plain rediculous.

"How is possible ,that Spain supoprt them, while 93% of population is agains....." - Please support those stats Eaglecz.  Is your source just plain rediculous too?

[blitz]

Originally posted by john9001
germany and france lose again, this is getting to be a habit.

 It's the world's NR 1 that lost something.


Regards Blitz


America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

[BGBMAW]

god //i hope blitz is not a Knight..if you are..U are defntly on the "Never Chek 6 Lists"



Semper Fi...


Somthing Germany and France have no clue about..


oops im wrong..there always faithful of being weenies


lololol


Love
BiGB

[Batz]

You are idiot blitz. Bush was covinced by Powell to go the UN. Others in the Bush admin were opposed and thought Bush should make plans to get rid Saddam early on. Some wanted Bush to go after Saddam before heading into afghanistan.

It was the powell faction (that includes Bush Sr.) that won the arguement. The other side thought the UN would do nothing but hand wringing. They now believe that had they never went to the UN then the US would be in a better position then now.

The US did not hide behing the UN. Your country and France did. Bush said from vwery early on that the US would not rely on the UN to protect its interests, even before 1441.

Now we have had months hand wringing and atleast in the case of Blair it has hurt him politically.

The US went out of its way by going to the UN. That part has ended and gotten him nowhere.

[Rude]

Originally posted by blitz
We can't just say Bush & crew are a 'Bunch of Liars' as they told already about a year ago that they will force a war with Iraq 'With the UN or without them' ......



They only tried to hide behind UN and abuse it after they decided long ago to go for their very own targets.

They failed miserably politically and now they use their military force to reach very questionable political goals.

A sovereign country is attacked by a superpower to change their political regime by violence.

There's no UN resolution now or in the past to back that.

This is no defence war its an 'Angriffskrieg'!

Bush wants to get rid of an old buddy who was at least as bad  when supportet by the USA as he is now. He killed 125000 iranian soldiers with the WMDs, which components were sold by western countries such as Germany, USA, France.
US didn't care about his WMD use at that time.
Even more suspicious they blocked an UN resolution to condemn Irak at that time for WMD use.

This war is fought for other main reasons as freedom and democrazy of Iraq people.
If it wasn't only for propaganda reasons what  US government told us about the democratic future of Kuwait before the last gulf war they had forced the 'liberated' Kuwait to got rid of their repression regime within the last 10 years.
Same goes for the democratic regimes of Pakistan and Egypt, still your bigtime friends.

This war isn't fought because Iraq has anything to do with Al Queida because their isn't the slidest proof of that.

This war isn't fought mainly for oil, but oil is 1 of the reasons or do you really think USA would go there if they had only sandclocks to sell?

The main reasons for me is Paul Wolfowitz stategy paper out of the late 80ties.

Time has come to gain much more power in this world for the neoconservative falkons in the white house.

Will that be good or bad for the world? Nobody knows.
But history shows that might corrupts pretty well.
It's always good to have a competition to have some balance.
After the end of the cold war there is a power vacuum and the Rumbsfelds and Wolfowitzs of the US government try to use it for their benefit.

The criminal attack on the WTC just came in handy for them.
As i see it, the 3000 innocent victimes are abused by the very right political spectrum of the USA. American people are kept in fear and panic by an irresponsible government. Shame on them.

I hope Saddam Hussein leaves his country to avoid a war and  to save his miserable live.
If not i hope  this war is over very quick and there are only a few people  to die on both sides.

This war can be horrible for iraq people.

This war is a politicall desaster for the world.




........What we can say though is: ' Bush and his warmongers are a Bunch of Blackmailers'


Imho Blitz


There aren't 'Soft Targets' , it's people you are killing.

'Collateral dammage' :which idiot invented that phrase? It's women, children and old men who will be teared apart.


America is threatened by Iraq in no way, it's just plain rediculous

Get over it