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Offline muckmaw

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2003, 01:14:26 PM »
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OT:  Muckmaw, if you have a trigger guard you can go ahead and load the shotgun, it can't be fired.  Save some time when you need it.

BTW, the pistolgrip was not necessary, any hunting shotgun would be just as good and probably cheaper.  Some shooting clubs won't let you use their facilities if you have a home defense weapon, but they will with a hunting shotgun.

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Thanks for the tip, RA.

Won't the Ammo sitting in there erode...or go bad..or something?

How often should I get this thing cleaned? And how long does ammo last? I have it sitting in the box, in my closet.

Thanks for any advice.

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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2003, 01:15:05 PM »
Dowding provoked me into doing research about Muslims.

I indeed changed my mind about Islam. I learned that Islam is not violent or evil in and of itself, and that terrorists are in fact a Muslim extremist lunatic fringe. Dowding.
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2003, 01:16:05 PM »
I guess these boards have made me certain of one thing that I was only dimly aware of before:  The current 2 party oligopoly in the USA is a disaster.

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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2003, 01:17:22 PM »
Muckmaw

 You still need to learn how to use that shotgun, you could very well shoot yourself or wife when the stress hits and your not familiar with it.

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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2003, 01:18:27 PM »
only Grunherz and Hortlund.

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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2003, 01:20:27 PM »
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Muckmaw

 You still need to learn how to use that shotgun, you could very well shoot yourself or wife when the stress hits and your not familiar with it.


It would be really bad if I shot myself.:D

Work on that....get back to me.

Seriously, I kinda figured it's like a camera, you know? Point and shoot.

Maybe your right. I better get my bellybutton to a gun range...if I can find one on Long Island. (Never actually looked)

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2003, 01:24:32 PM »
Muckmaw,

Ammo will last just about forever.   And you can fire your shotgun hundreds of times without cleaning it so long as you don't drop it in the mud.  And you don't need to get it cleaned, it is easy to clean yourself.  GtoRa2 makes the most important point, learn to use it.  It is a very simple device but very dangerous.  Maybe the gundealer you bought it from can tell you where you can find a place to fire it.


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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2003, 01:26:20 PM »
The dealer had an indoor range, but he said I could not fire this type of gun there. *shrugs*

He said I need to find an outdoor range.

I'll make some calls.

Thanks for the advice.

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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2003, 01:30:17 PM »
Yes Muckmaw, you should be very familiar with a firearm (a class could not hurt, since you have no experience whatsoever) before keeping it around (and possibley loaded) for home defense.  Learning to use cover, and knowing to not point the gun or put your finger on the trigger until you actually want to kill something, never hurts either.

And no its not as easy as a camera ;) Point and shoot, and you will probably miss.  Shotgun or not.  Stress, panic, and inexperience will make you do some really strange things.

Just get some practice and some tips from people that know what they're doing.  Welcome to the "Gun Club" ! :)

PS: Keeping it loaded will probably not hurt a standard pump shotgun.  It does keep continuous stress on the magazine spring, would could freeze up and cause a jam, but its unlikely given the type of weapon .  Well, at least as long as it hasn't been 20 years since it was loaded.  The ammunition should probably be changed out once a year ( and you should practice at least that much).  Choice of ammunition is very important as well.  Personally I would reccommend a 2 3/4" magnum round loaded with No. 1 or "O" (single ought buckshot).

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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2003, 01:32:16 PM »
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and the relative geographical location of Afghanistan and Yugoslavia (;)).


Happy to help buddy... :D

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« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2003, 01:33:08 PM »
One thing I changed my mind about - after it was too late - was throwing out a whole case of perfectly good Freedom Ticklers.
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« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2003, 01:35:27 PM »
I clean my guns after every use.  If you store it alot, I would take it out every few months and oil it.  Not enough to make it greasy, just to preven rust.

Ammo, if kept in a dry place, has a very long shelf life.  If the prass collar on the shell starts to corrode, I'd get rid of it.

You most definately have to fire your gun.  You have to know how it feels to shoot it.  Would you want the first time you drove a car to be when you are trying to get your child to the hospital?  You don't want the first time you fire that gun to be in the protection of your family, either.

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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2003, 01:35:35 PM »
I am sure that everyone will come to the realization that I am allways right.   I think there may be a slight delay tho while it sinks in.

I am sure that everyone has learned something from both sides due to the discussions on this board tho.
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« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2003, 01:37:10 PM »
informative, interesting (sometimes)

change my view - nope

I don't think I have influenced anyone who had a 180 viewpoint to mine either

sometimes reminds me of a bunch of cackling old ladies really... waste of time in the end probably
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« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2003, 01:40:49 PM »
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Based on discussions in this forum?

I know that I have become much more interested in becoming a gun owner. Anyone else... on any topic?


Nope.
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