Three Destroyed Abrams

[Boroda]

BREAD lines!? Who told you this!

There could be lines for butter of sausage in the 80s, maybe for toilet paper sometimes, but Bread is a basic food. I don't remember any lines for bread in my whole life, not counting 3-5 persons in rush hours.

[GRUNHERZ]

Bread line or no breadline Boroda everyone knows the shortage of essential consumer goods that all communist countries had. I lived in one and I still remember, so laugh about all you want now - but that doesnt change facts from before.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Bread line or no breadline Boroda everyone knows the shortage of essential consumer goods that all communist countries had. I lived in one and I still remember, so laugh about all you want now - but that doesnt change facts from before.

GH, there is a fundamental difference between Bread and any other thing. It's what makes me so angry.

[GRUNHERZ]

I know what you mean, but it was a joke.

BTW please take down that picture which shows you as a human being, it makes hating you more difficult.

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Originally posted by Martlet
2 Abrams and a Bradley.  They were incapacitated, and the crews tried to destroy them before they were abandonded.  Enough RPG shots to the grill will take them out.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/39027000/rm/_39027111_najaf1935_hanrahan_vi.ram
Here's the footage - which one's the Bradley? They all look like tanks to me. Not 100% sure #3 is an Abrams though.

[GrimCO]

Boroda,

Let me make one thing clear. I am in NO WAY making fun of having to stand in line for food. My grandparents had to do it during the depression in the United States. I don't wish this fate on any human being.

The point I was trying to make is that Communism fell on it's own. It's a poor choice of government that had no chance of working, with which I'm sure you'll agree.

I don't hate the Russian populace or have any contempt toward them whatsoever. I wish nothing but economic prosperity for your country.

It's just your anti-United States sentiment at all costs that creates my skepticism toward your comments.

[Airhead]

Grim, what does Communism have to do with three destroyed Abrams? And anyway why bust Boroda's chops about "bread lines?" I read this thread twice and didn't read any anti- US statements from Boroda- but I did read a few anti-Boroda statements from you.

Perhaps you can quote what Boroda has said in this thread which you consider to be "Anti-American." Really, I missed it.

[GrimCO]

Airhead,

It's not this one post...  Do a search and read into some of his other posts...

[Dowding]

Yes GrimmCO, but in this thread you made an unprovoked attack on him for no reason at all. Thanks to yourself and Martlet, a perfectly reasonable discussion on armour etc degraded into Boroda bashing session.

What point did that serve?

Thanks for the info Boroda and ZOSO. Interesting stuff.

[Pongo]

Reactive armour is a block of explosives that is fused to explode when hit by a HEAT warhead and there for disrupt the penetration jet of the HEAT warhead.
Depleted uranium armour is an extremly dense sheet of metal that is like a face hardening I believe. It is meant to increase the resistance to KE weapons like sabot rounds.

The abrams and Challanger use composite "cholbam" armour to defeat HEAT rounds instead of active armour. Composite armour has sheets of different density metals that allow the penetration jet of the heat war head to seek the path of least resistance there for speading sideways as it hits softer layers instead of continuing through the next hardend layer. Such materials cannot be cast apperenlty. So when you see the modern western tanks with slab like armour construction that is what your seeing.

[Boroda]

From what I was told in college - active armour is effective against sabot (sub-caliber AP) runds too. The main goal was to "shift" the sabot so it's velosity vector will not be directed parallel to the axis of the "bar" (Russian word "lom" slang), so the old hard sabots will break and new "soft" will lose it's penetration effect.

In the 80s there already existed twin HEAT shells, with first small charge dealing with avtive armour and/or screens and then main sharge penetrates main armour.

That Israelis who invented dynamic protection were really smart

[GrimCO]

BTW Boroda,

If you ever visit the United States in the Florida area, you too have a place to stay here with my family and I, and I sincerely mean that.

In no way am I holding anything against you personally because of your political views, as much as I disagree with them.  I would love to show you the hearts of my family and the vast majority of Americans... We are a decent, honest people with the best of intentions and you are welcome in my home anytime.

[GrimCO]

Dowding,

Get over it...  I had enough of it in other forums and will not apologize for it... If Boroda can express his opinions unrelated to a forum thread, he should be man enough to expect the same. And I believe he is.

[Ike 2K#]

Originally posted by GrimCO
Boroda,

You trying to tell me you've never stood in a bread line in Russia?

Maybe he used to be the member of the party elite (CPSU)

[Martlet]

Bread lines is a term, and does not meant that one stood in line for "bread", but for any consumer good.

Dowding:  Waaaaaaaah.  Grab your sign, and go stand in front of Windsor.   You pop your head in every time you think you can get away with your anti american crap.  You, Baroda, Blitz, Straffo.  

The jealousy burns.  It's not my fault you were born in some third rate country.  You are one of those people that is so jealous of what other people have, they do anything to lessen it.  Guess what?  Not buying.  Go sulk in your own misery.  Regardless of your jabs, America is, and will always be, the best nation on earth.

I know it, and in places you try to hide, you know it.  Deal with it.