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Offline gatt

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« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2003, 09:01:52 AM »
Well, at least from this thread everyone can really understand the status of USA-Europe relationships and their respective attitudes :rolleyes:
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« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2003, 09:01:59 AM »
Your original post was in answer to gatt's comment about Italy not allowing the US to launch strikes from its bases. You basically said that the US could do what it likes from its bases. In Italy, the US base at Aviano, is not actually owned by the US at all. It has a similar arrangement regarding Incerlik in Turkey and Ryadh in Saudi Arabia. Therefore your point, in answer to gatt's point about overseas bases, has nothing to do with bases actually owned by the US.
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« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2003, 09:07:20 AM »
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Straffo, dear... I don't think anyone here will bother translating that wall of text, and I feel too lazy now to translate it 8)


C'est leur probleme pas le mien si ils ne peuvent pas lire la source originale ...
Je fait souvent cet effort c'est leur tour.
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« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2003, 09:08:29 AM »
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Your original post was in answer to gatt's comment about Italy not allowing the US to launch strikes from its bases. You basically said that the US could do what it likes from its bases. In Italy, the US base at Aviano, is not actually owned by the US at all. It has a similar arrangement regarding Incerlik in Turkey and Ryadh in Saudi Arabia. Therefore your point, in answer to gatt's point about overseas bases, has nothing to do with bases actually owned by the US.


The US has an Army, a Navy, and an Air Force base in Italy.

Please try to keep up.
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« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2003, 09:10:38 AM »
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C'est leur probleme pas le mien si ils ne peuvent pas lire la source originale ...
Je fait souvent cet effort c'est leur tour.


C'est un BBS anglais. Si vous voudriez que les personnes comprennent votre avis, vous devriez écrire en anglais. Pas chacun peut parler français, même pendant que le mauvais en tant que mien.
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« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2003, 09:14:48 AM »
It's not the problem Martlett ,if you want to use a source you should rely on the primary source not a secondary one.

Do we agree again ?



If ever I try to translate this text it would be :
[list=1]
  • badly translated
  • my interpretation
  • completly unreadable :) (it's almost unreadable in french)
    • [/list=1]
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« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2003, 09:15:31 AM »
Yes, but they are not 'yours'. They are still property of the Italians.

Hence, your point that they can do as they like is not correct. As we have seen with the Saudis and the Turks, they can dictate what they get used for. And they have done. The Italians are not letting strike aircraft launch from there, only as a stop-over.
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« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2003, 09:17:26 AM »
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Yes, but they are not 'yours'. They are still property of the Italians.

Hence, your point that they can do as they like is not correct. As we have seen with the Saudis and the Turks, they can dictate what they get used for. And they have done. The Italians are not letting strike aircraft launch from there, only as a stop-over.


You are incorrect.  They are ours.
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« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2003, 09:19:53 AM »
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It's not the problem Martlett ,if you want to use a source you should rely on the primary source not a secondary one.

Do we agree again ?



If ever I try to translate this text it would be :
[list=1]
  • badly translated
  • my interpretation
  • completly unreadable :) (it's almost unreadable in french)
    • [/list=1] [/B]


I do agree.  I'm simply stating that if you want to make a point, and truly have people understand it, then you should post in a language they understand.  Unless they speak French or have it explained, it serves your argument no justice.

With the US being as far away from much of the world as it is, speaking multiple languages isn't as common over here.
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« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2003, 09:24:13 AM »
Incerlik, Ryadh and Aviano are yours?

I'm afraid you're in for a shock.

Check this article for starters about Aviano.

"Navigating among Aviano's many sponsors and contracting agents would frustrate an experienced program manager. Although the upgrade is a NATO project, Italy is the host country and owns the base. All contracts must comply with Italian legal standards."

I'll find more when I get more time. Enjoy.
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« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2003, 09:25:59 AM »
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Incerlik, Ryadh and Aviano are yours?

I'm afraid you're in for a shock.

Check this article for starters about Aviano.

"Navigating among Aviano's many sponsors and contracting agents would frustrate an experienced program manager. Although the upgrade is a NATO project, Italy is the host country and owns the base. All contracts must comply with Italian legal standards."

I'll find more when I get more time. Enjoy.


I never said any of those were ours.

Please get your facts straight before posting.
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« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2003, 09:29:09 AM »
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I do agree.  I'm simply stating that if you want to make a point, and truly have people understand it, then you should post in a language they understand.  Unless they speak French or have it explained, it serves your argument no justice.

With the US being as far away from much of the world as it is, speaking multiple languages isn't as common over here.


I agree (ouch ... next step we will embrace each other ;))
I just wanted to add the original source nothing more.
I't not my fault  if you've chosen English as your native langage :p
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« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2003, 09:32:40 AM »
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I agree (ouch ... next step we will embrace each other ;))
I just wanted to add the original source nothing more.
I't not my fault  if you've chosen English as your native langage :p


your native language, unfortunately, is not a choice.  However, if you have one, English is by far the best.  Languages should be stressed in school, though.

Many people speak French where I grew up.
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« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2003, 09:32:52 AM »
So when gatt was talking about Italian bases, and you replied to him, what were you referring to?
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« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2003, 09:35:45 AM »
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So when gatt was talking about Italian bases, and you replied to him, what were you referring to?


Livorno, Vicenza, and Sicily.
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