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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2003, 03:12:43 PM »
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When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Blitz, an aplogy for what?  State specifically what the USA should apologize for.

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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2003, 04:00:59 PM »
China and Russia should apologize to us for helping North Vietnam wage a war of agression against South Vietnam.

South Vietnam was no threat to North Vietnam.  It's redeculis.

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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2003, 04:44:11 PM »
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Blitz, an aplogy for what?  State specifically what the USA should apologize for.


If ya don't know that by yourself it can't be helped :(


Regards Blitz






America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride

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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2003, 04:45:46 PM »
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Blitz, your voice counts for nothing. Your country counts for nothing.   Take it!!!!


 I know that very well :)


Bother to read the post of Mr. Kiesling ?


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America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride

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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2003, 04:57:22 PM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
China and Russia should apologize to us for helping North Vietnam wage a war of agression against South Vietnam.

South Vietnam was no threat to North Vietnam.  It's redeculis.



That war was lost by US because it was a great unjustice!

The world sah it like that, american people sah it like that!

Like it or not , that war against Vietnam was a political crime.


Media had a great impact on the outcome of this war , as we all know.


That is exactly why we had all that propaganda shows before the Iraq war and  have this "embedded" reporters now.


To have propaganda to the enemy is 1 point , to make a propaganda war to the population of your own country and the world is another.

Your current government is world champion of propaganda.

I dislike that.


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America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride
« Last Edit: April 06, 2003, 05:01:48 PM by blitz »

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« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2003, 05:21:02 PM »
IMHO, John Brady Kiesling is a man worthy of respect.
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« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2003, 05:28:36 PM »
Reading Blitz posts should remove all doubt as to the long lasting effects of east german communist propaganda.

eek proffesional mental help blitz...

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« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2003, 05:31:43 PM »
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Reading Blitz posts should remove all doubt as to the long lasting effects of east german communist propaganda.

eek proffesional mental help blitz...


Is Mr. Kiesling brainwashed too ?

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« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2003, 05:34:33 PM »
No, but you are.

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« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2003, 05:35:39 PM »
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Is Mr. Kiesling brainwashed too ?

Regards Blitz



Thank you for ya answer :)


And Mary Ann Wright, she is brainwashed , too?


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America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride

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« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2003, 05:36:23 PM »
Quick Vietnam history lesson for Blitz:

1850's: France forcibly takes over Vietnam/ Cambodia Laos area and plunders the resources until WWII ( America Universally Blamed)

Post WWII: France takes control of area once again and is driven out by 1954 ( all Americas fault)

1954 ( around that time) Geneva peace agreement forms North and South Vietnam with intentions for a reunification election to follow.

1957 North Attacks South ( America's fault)

1961 :  President John F. Kennedy orders more help for the South Vietnamese government in its war against the Vietcong guerrillas.

1975: US Congress denies any aid to South despite demands from Nixon, then Ford

1975: US leaves, North takes over the South

Conclusion:
  1.France screwed over the area for almost 100 years, got kicked  out.
  2. North and South Vietnam formed
  3. North ( communists) attack South
  4. US defends South
  5. 1975 US congress denies demands By Nixon, then Ford to give any aid to South.
  6.  US leaves
  7.  Communists take over

So do we owe an appology for trying to defend the South against the North?
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« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2003, 05:37:30 PM »
No she is not, but you are.

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« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2003, 05:38:23 PM »
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Thank you for ya answer :)


And Mary Ann Wright, she is brainwashed , too?


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America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride



This one is definately brainwashed :D


Published on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 by Reuters  
U.S. Guilty of 'Shocking Double Standards' on Iraq - Butler  
 
 
SYDNEY - Former U.N. arms inspector Richard Butler said Tuesday that Washington was promoting "shocking double standards" in considering taking unilateral military action to rid Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction.


Former chief U.N. weapons inspector Richard Butler gestures during his seminar presentation entitled "Weapons of Mass Destruction - the Iraq Case and All the Others,' in Sydney on Jan. 28, 2003. Butler said Tuesday that Washington was promoting 'shocking double standards' in considering taking unilateral military action to rid Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction. Photo by Tim Wimborne/Reuters
 
Butler, who led U.N. inspection teams in Iraq until Baghdad kicked them out in 1998 (Common Dreams Editor's note: This is not true. See: http://www.fair.org/extra/0210/inspectors.html), said Iraqi President Saddam Hussein undoubtedly possessed weapons of mass destruction, and was trying to "cheat" his way again out of the latest U.N. demand to disarm.

But a U.S. attack, without United Nations backing, and without any effort to curb the possession of weapons of mass destruction globally, would be a contravention of international law and sharpen the divide between Arabs and the West.

"The spectacle of the United States, armed with its weapons of mass destruction, acting without Security Council authority to invade a country in the heartland of Arabia and, if necessary, use its weapons of mass destruction to win that battle, is something that will so deeply violate any notion of fairness in this world that I strongly suspect it could set loose forces that we would deeply live to regret," Butler said.

Butler's successor as the chief U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq, Hans Blix, reported Monday to the 15-member Security Council that Baghdad had only reluctantly complied with its latest demand to disarm.

Washington is pressing the United Nations to take firm action but says it is prepared to go it alone and has amassed a considerable military force in the region.

Butler, addressing a conservative Australian think-tank, The Sydney Institute, said the stated U.S. motive -- to rid Iraq of weapons of mass destruction -- lacked credibility because of Washington's failure to deal with others on the same terms.

Countries such as Syria are suspected of possessing chemical or biological warfare capabilities, he said.

U.S. allies Israel, Pakistan and India have nuclear arsenals but have not signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

The United States and other permanent Security Council members were themselves the possessors of the world's largest quantities of nuclear weapons, he said.

"Why are they permitting the persistence of such shocking double standards?" Butler said.

He said that, instead of beating the drums of war, the United States should propose an international mechanism -- similar to the Security Council -- to enforce the application of the three main conventions controlling the proliferation of nuclear, chemical and biological weaponry.

It should also take the lead by reducing its own stockpiles.

"I hope we don't have to await the train wreck before we decide to change history," Butler said.

 
Regards Blitz





America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride



Gruen, you're to slow :D


Regards Blitz

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« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2003, 05:41:40 PM »
Blitz, I thought you quit?

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« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2003, 05:43:57 PM »
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Quick Vietnam history lesson for Blitz:

So do we owe an appology for trying to defend the South against the North?


Yes, but will take it's time and a great Statesman to do so, noone in sight right now :)


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America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was plain ridiculous- It's a classic "Agression War.


When will this tough little country of Vietnam get that apology?


Americans and Vietnamese have something in common:

Their pride