I have no idea what you're rambling about, but after reading your last post ..... I'm more convinced that you don't either
That was addressed to Hortlund. I quoted article 49 of the fourth geneva convention, which orginisations like the Red Cross, UN, EU, UK and US governments agree applies to Israeli settlements in the territories.
Hortlund, after lecturing extensively on his knowledge of the law, came up with:
Oh, you can trust whoever you want, I still dont think you should trust the internet as a source for complicated legal issues though. You know, I was wrong regarding the Geneva convention (they do not cover occupation at all), I really should have looked it up before posting.
Riddle me this:
What exactly is "the fourth Geneva convention"?
There are five conventions and protocols related to Geneva, they are (in chronological order):
Amelioration of the condition of the wounded on the field of battle
-from 1864
Geneva protocol for the prohibition of the use in war of asphyxiating gas, and for bacteriological methods of warfare
-from 1928
Convention between the United States of America and other powers, relating to prisoners of war
-from 1929
Geneva convention relative to the treatment of prisoners of war
-from 1949
Convention on the prohibition of the development, production and stockpiling of bacteriological and toxin weapons and their destruction
-from 1975
Of these five, two have more than 49 articles.
From the 1929 convention:
Art 49
No prisoner of war may be deprived of his rank by the detaining Power.
Prisoners given disciplinary punishment may not be deprived of the prerogatives attached to their rank. In particular, officers and persons of equivalent status who suffer punishment involving deprivation of liberty shall not be placed in. the same quarters as noncommissioned officers or privates being punished.
From the 1949 convention:
The Detaining Power may utilize the labour of prisoners of war who are physically fit, taking into account their age, sex, rank and physical aptitude, and with a view particularly to maintaining them in a good state of physical and mental health.
Non-commissioned officers who are prisoners of war shall only be required to do supervisory work. Those not so required may ask for other suitable work which shall, so far as possible, be found for them.
If officers or persons of equivalent status ask for suitable work, it shall be found for them, so far as possible, but they may in no circumstances be compelled to work.
Where is your famous article 49:
"The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies." ?
DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ ON THE INTERNET.
For some reason, he entirely missed the fact that the fourth convention of 1949 had four parts, article 49 of part 4 says:
"Art. 49. Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.
Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.
The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.
The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.
The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.
The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."
I guess it's just too easy to dismiss a lot of posts by actual Arabs from a time frame closer to the event itself, then to spend hundreds of hours reading the material yourself, or simply say nothing if you really don't know.
Or to ignore the published diaries of the Israeli leaders at the time. Read what Menachem Begin had to say about partition at the time, or what Ben Gurion had said about partition throughout the 30s.
There was a sizeable part of the Israeli leadership that regarded partition as just another step towards an Israeli state in the whole of Palestine.
