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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2003, 02:57:25 PM »
Sandman my daughter is 8 now and corporal punishment is not part of the regimen with her and she is usually very well behaved. (She has her days, like all of the rest of us :) ) Corporal punishment is a punishment of last resort in this house. With Heather the mere threat is enough to keep her in good behavior :)

Maverick, this happened in Broomfield Colorado. Yes....his mother did send him to me 7 or 8 years to late. I knew when he was only 6 or 7 that she was going to have big problems with him as a teenager, (she was having problems then) and I begged her to let him live with me. Unfortunately she was still very bitter about me divorcing her for sleeping with other men and keeping custody was just another way for her to exact revenge.


Did this thread get hijacked? :eek:
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« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2003, 03:12:13 PM »
Nope no hijack, just a discussion about a symptom of one of America's problems.

I feel (opinion) that the majority of todays problem kids are the result of kids from prior hippy's. The reason I say this is not the drug issue but one of an overuse of the "freedom to do their own thing" and a lack of concern for parenting. The hippys rebelled from the way their parnts raised them and figured they would do it in a much more "free" environment, IE. lack of control and concern. As a result their kids became chronlogically adults and had kids of their own. Since they didn't have "parents" they have no clue or example to follow and tend to ignore their offspring in the search for their own entertainment and "fulfillment". It isn't the kids fault. Hell, they were hardly even house broken by their "parental units" much less taught how to behave and right from wrong.

An over emphasis on "giving" the kid self esteem instead of teaching them how to EARN it by their actions in the school system just puts the frosting on the cake. They have been taught that what THEY want is paramount and the world / society owes it to them. It is the "duty" of all others concerned with caring for them to give the kid whatever he /she wants. This is a self perpetuationg problem that bites quite a few kids on the butt when they get out in the "REAL WORLD" and their boss and others don't give them what they want. (Straffo I agree with ya)

Elf, how did the boy turn out? Did he turn himself around?
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« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2003, 04:23:40 PM »
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Elf, how did the boy turn out? Did he turn himself around?


At 16 he was made a ward of the state (by this time he was back living with his mom in Nebraska). He was put into a program where he either had to get his HS diploma or a GED. (He opted for the GED)  He was also put into an apartment and required to hold a job working at least 36 hours a week. He had to pay his own rent, utilities, phone etc. A social worker supervised him until he turned 19.

He has since joined the Army which I think will do him a world of good. In answer to your questions.....I don't really know. I don't hear from him much, and his mom has never been very open when it comes to discussing issues regarding our son. I still hope he straightens out someday :)
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« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2003, 06:29:48 PM »
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thank the libs



What are we thanking the Libs for? Did the "Libs" break up Elfie's marriage after he'd started a family? Did the "libs" make Elfie remarry and start a new family, virtually abandoning his son? The only thing I can see to thank the Libs for is that beating a fifteen year old with a belt is now considered child abuse. So, I agree- thank you, Libs.

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« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2003, 03:01:46 AM »
im sure you want to hear from a kid that is just getting done being a kid. The worst people i ever met came from highly religous households, and the best people ive meet came from highly religous households. Same can be said with non religous.
Kids are raised believeing they have no responsibilitys. This is a very christian(forgive me jesus,wohoo no more guilt!)/ capitalist( if it benefits me screw the mass's) thing to do.
Most sluty girls come from broken familys and have daddy complex's.
People that listen to rap music are up to no good.(its true)
I(and everyone else i knew) could buy drugs far easier then beer.
Kids that grew up in strict households ended up going bad pretty quick.(the whole rebelion thing). While kids in super relaxed households didnt do much better( always did bad things to get noticed by their parents).
Most divorced familys were highly religous.My family is atheist and me and my brother are the most respectfull kids you will meet off the internet(i like messing with people on the net for kicks because its harmless fun).


oh and for all you nutjobs out their that think its because we dont dance around and pray to cloud gods we created in our image. Ever since they added "under god" to the pledge of alligance in the late 50s are kids have gotten worse i say!

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« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2003, 11:50:59 AM »
Sounds like there's no hope Frogman :)  It's all Barney's fauly!

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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2003, 04:07:07 PM »
barney got them into that damn rap music.

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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2003, 04:09:11 PM »
Given the choice between rap/hiphop and country/western... I'll take the former. :D
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