Finns........ History Question

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Toad
All of us know there's lots of cr p on the internet. However, there's lots of reliable stuff as well AND good leads to actual source documents, electronic as well as ink and paper.

He knows how to use the internet. He obviously knows how to read.

The true history is out there.

You know Crabofix, if he didn't continue the totally absurd denials, I'd let it go.

But he insists on fairy tale history and much of that is pretty entertaining. So....... what can I say? I'm weak.

Toad, I told you many times. When I see two logically reasonable views on one historical event, one of them Soviet and another one - Western, I prefer to believe Soviet source. Just for my sanity's sake. I also prefer facts and documents to things like "everyone knows that...".

Your side (let's simply call it "blue", and ours - "red", as traditionaly on military maps) employed about 80% of what nazi Ministry of Propaganda said about Soviet Union. I think that my duty, as a free man, Soviet patriot and Russian citizen is to show that it's mostly a lie.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by mora
Title: Green Book
Author: Colonel Muammar Gaddafi

Too bad it's not available here, it would be interesting read.

Indeed a very interesting read. It was published in USSR in Gorbachev's time. I have a copy myself.

The book is absolutely anti-Soviet. It's hard to imagine that it was published here. Kaddafi's ideas look very strange. But for Americans it's nessesary to know their enemy.

The whole Lybian state is a strange island of... I don't know how to call it. Moslim traditions, strange kind of Socialism, and great (without any doubt!) personality of Kaddafi.

/*the last phrase will make me an enemy of the whole "free world" again */

Hehe, in a preface to Russian edition he says that American attack in Tripoly had the only purpose - to destroy his "modest tent" with a manuscript of Green Book

Another great detail of Kaddafi's personality is that he suggested a law that makes a male Lybian consult his wifes about taking a next one. He was absolutely mad at female parliament members who voted against it...

Such things help you to understand other nations and traditions..

[Boroda]

Wmaker, quotes from Volkogonov and especially Boris Sokolov are not a value at all. If you quote this "historians" - I have no other choice then to give up.

I can give you tons of commie/nationalistic crap written here to prove they are wrong, bit it's too easy and will be not very good to quote obvious bull****. Let's not go down to that level.

Tsingis, what you posted is very interesting, especially when you know Kirill Nabutov, one of the best Russian TV journalists. Unfortunately he no longer works with Moscow Resue Service, so I don't think I can ask him questions directly

[Tsingis]

Just as a reminder, You are welcome to settle this discussion in current Finland-Russia CT map by violent means

[Wmaker]

Originally posted by Boroda
Wmaker, quotes from Volkogonov and especially Boris Sokolov are not a value at all. If you quote this "historians" - I have no other choice then to give up.

It doesn't matter who I quote. If the author doesn't match your...ahem...*views* you are going to declare them inaccurate, biased or whatever no matter who they are.

This thread has shown that most people in this forum seem to be aware what really happened in Winter war and in Continuation war. That is all I care about. That is the only reason why I have ever even replied to your posts. I could not care less what you think. I only want to make sure no one believes the BS you post about Finland.

Kirill Nabutov's document proved to me that the truth is known in Russia too. And as I said only a few "Good Ol' CCCP-commies" that are left can believe what they want for all I care. They wont be around much longer anyway.

[rshubert]

Sorry about the delay in checking the Library of Congress.  There are 68 titles in the LOC collection by Qadaffi (that's the "official" LOC spelling of his name), including one titled "Women's Issues/ First International Symposium on the Thought of Muamar Al-Gathafi, the 'green book'", and another on the philosophy of Jihad.  Some are in English, some are in (apparently) Arabic.

There really is free trade in ideas and philosophies here.  Just accept it, get over it, and learn to live with it.

[Toad]

Originally posted by Wmaker
I only want to make sure no one believes the BS you post about Finland.
 

It's not just Finland.

[Hooligan]

I'm sure you guys are hurting Romanian feelings.  What about their "gift" of Odessa to Stalin in 1940?

Hooligan