possible future 9/11 festuring?

[OIO]

"Worse yet, you get to heaven and find out THERE IS A GOD...he's a Jew...and IS HE PISSED"

oh man, hadnt laughed that much in a while, thanks. that was awesome

[Syzygyone]

Muck.
Do you mind if I  call you that?

Muck;
The problem with your post is that it is founded on sound and irrefutable logic.  That alone makes it anathema to religious clerics and their lemming sheep.  You are thinking too much with your brain.   Why else would you care about family above self?  It is pathetic the way we westerner's ascribe our values  to those in the  middle east.  It is simply inconceivable for us to imagine that "family" is not universally acepted as important.  This despite the plethora of proof that, in ARab cultures, the protection of women and children, nay, the total subjugation of women and slavery of children are the norm and accepted practices.

Unfrotunately, despite what the totally hypoctical leftists and socialists think, there is right and there is wrong.   At the core, it is not a matter of the cultural context.  Western thought and culture, yes even that of those slimely French, is more developed and advanced in terms of human decency.  That's why all those muslims who are getting educated by hook or by crook are leaving arab countries in droves.

They don't think like we do.  Period.  It will take generations for that to change.  But, so long as heinous people like SH and power mongers like the Ayatollahs are around to repress basic human rights and the instinct for freedom, there will always be enemies to kill.  Note that I didn't say try to redeem.  We must kill them before they kill anymore of us.

It's a war and those of you who don't see it as a war are doomed to become victims.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Toad
We give them way to much support now and probably have for the last 20 years.

However, without US support for at least Israel's first 30 years they would have ceased to exist as a nation.

So, are you suggesting we should have never supported them? For fear of angering Arabs/Muslims?

Because that, to me, suggests that you feel Israel should have been left to the tender mercies of her neighbors.

Sounds like a second Holocaust to me.

Support is one thing. But it's a 2 way street.

They should give something in return besides pure racism.



Regards Blitz

[muckmaw]

Very well put, Syz.

It really is sad, more than anything else.

[blitz]

Originally posted by ra
The most vociferous protesters are Shiites with ties to Iran's revolutionary Islamic government.  They want to take advantage of the current power vacuum to position themselves for more power in whatever government evolves down the road.  Most Shiites in Iraq have no link with Iran, and I doubt most Iraqis want the coalition forces to leave just yet.  But the Shiites who have Iranian backing are organised, so they present a carefully crafted image of grassroots discontent.  Typical for all Islamist political movements, they want to intimidate other Iraqi political movements before they can even get off the ground.   Iraq's political future is uncertain, but the fact the Iran is involved was inevitable.

ra

How many millions are there in Kerbela?


Regards Blitz



America was thretened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous

[Syzygyone]

Originally posted by muckmaw
Very well put, Syz.

It really is sad, more than anything else.

Thanks, but I think the really sad thing is the likes of Blitz and Slo and Boroda, to name a few.

They ought to know better but obviously don't.

[SLO]

syz...


I didn't start this thread to bash the US or your POV...

I was showing you what the otherside was doing and thinking....

what you think or feel I don't give a ****.....

just hope you learned something new....even though you don't care but for yourself....


its in there freaking religion to HATE the JEWS.....what you think and do WILL NOT CHANGE THAT....

I'm just hoping IRAQ doen't turn out to be like another IRAN....with a bunch of religious freaks....

there already talking about clerics in political positions.....


and like as if I need you too tell me what I know and don't chump....stick with your individual self from now on if you please....

and leave your assinine comments in your useless brain please:eek:


notice how nice I am....I did say please:D

[Arfann]

Originally posted by Suave
Well done ! You could've just joined in the discourse, but instead of formulating a point you dressed a tiresome "nuh uh" in sarcasm and adorned it with a .

Another triumph !

I think not. The last one I had wouldn't keep up with my friends Beemer. Bummer.

[blitz]

Originally posted by Syzygyone
Muck.
Do you mind if I  call you that?

Muck;
The problem with your post is that it is founded on sound and irrefutable logic.  That alone makes it anathema to religious clerics and their lemming sheep.  You are thinking too much with your brain.   Why else would you care about family above self?  It is pathetic the way we westerner's ascribe our values  to those in the  middle east.  It is simply inconceivable for us to imagine that "family" is not universally acepted as important.  This despite the plethora of proof that, in ARab cultures, the protection of women and children, nay, the total subjugation of women and slavery of children are the norm and accepted practices.

Unfrotunately, despite what the totally hypoctical leftists and socialists think, there is right and there is wrong.   At the core, it is not a matter of the cultural context.  Western thought and culture, yes even that of those slimely French, is more developed and advanced in terms of human decency.  That's why all those muslims who are getting educated by hook or by crook are leaving arab countries in droves.

They don't think like we do.  Period.  It will take generations for that to change.  But, so long as heinous people like SH and power mongers like the Ayatollahs are around to repress basic human rights and the instinct for freedom, there will always be enemies to kill.  Note that I didn't say try to redeem.  We must kill them before they kill anymore of us.

It's a war and those of you who don't see it as a war are doomed to become victims.

You know that there are kids under 16 years kept as prisoners in famous civil rights camp at Guantanamo Bay, right?


Regards Blitz


btw Are we really better? Which muslim country is able to destroy the entire world with all it's WMDs, 10 times in a row? Was this the will of God?

Which countries are wastin all of the worlds ressources? The muslims?

Tell me a muslim country that invented WMDs!

Tell me a muslim country that developped WMDs on its own !

What is really superior on our side are the weapons and the economy.


America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous

[blitz]

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[Syzygyone]

Originally posted by SLO
syz...

I didn't start this thread to bash the US or your POV...

I was showing you what the otherside was doing and thinking....

Yes you did!.   The mere fact that you posted it indicates your mind boggeling arrogance and superior attitude  "Oh yes, the worldly Canadian knows more than any of them dummies down south!"  You don't think we know why they hate Americans?  And now you are back peddaling trying to say you were just enlightening the poor dumb Yanks.  Give us all a break, will ya'.

The fact is, the U.S. knows full well that our support of Israel is causing others to hate us and yes, we knows that there are lunatics who want to destroy the US because of it's support of Israel.  But, you know what, (and pay attention because this is the difference between why the US is a truly great nation, and France and Germany and Russia are not), the US is willing to do what is right, no matter the cost, no matter how hard.  We support Israel, (which, have you forgotten, was created by your very own sanctified UN) because it is the right thing to do.  The US doesn't shirk it's resonsibilities to protect freedom and democracy just because irrational maniacs decide to suicide themselves or just because they blow up innocents.  Facing sacrifice is the price that has to be paid when you find yourself the leader of the free world.   What your post refelcts is not the lack of knowledge on the part of the US, but your own ignorance and fundamental failure to understand the concepts of courage and sacrifice for the greater good.  It's too bad, because the Cannucks are also a brave and courageous people but they have elected themselves a spineless miscreant more beholden to France than to his own citizens.

So, come again Slo.  I look forward to it!

[Martlet]

Originally posted by blitz
You know that there are kids under 16 years kept as prisoners in famous civil rights camp at Guantanamo Bay, right?


Regards Blitz


btw Are we really better? Which muslim country is able to destroy the entire world with all it's WMDs, 10 times in a row? Was this the will of God?

Which countries are wastin all of the worlds ressources? The muslims?

Tell me a muslim country that invented WMDs!

Tell me a muslim country that developped WMDs on its own !

What is really superior on our side are the weapons and the economy.


America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain ridiculous

What has any of this got to do with anything?

Isn't it time for your show?

[Syzygyone]

Originally posted by blitz
You know that there are kids under 16 years kept as prisoners in famous civil rights camp at Guantanamo Bay, right?

Regards Blitz


btw Are we really better? Which muslim country is able to destroy the entire world with all it's WMDs, 10 times in a row? Was this the will of God?

Which countries are wastin all of the worlds ressources? The muslims?

Tell me a muslim country that invented WMDs!

Tell me a muslim country that developped WMDs on its own !

What is really superior on our side are the weapons and the economy.

Blitz, you ignorant slut!
LOL, I always wanted to say that.  Sorry, I try not to engage in adhominum.

But seriously, your post is almost comical
First of all, what difference does it make if there are 16 year olds in GITMO.  There were illegal combatants trying to kill coaltion forces.  

Second,  WE?  WE?  Oh let me see, what caused us to start devleoping WMD.  Oh right, it was first the Axis powers, Germany, Japan and later Russia.  It wasn't we back them, now was it.  

Third, it's not the ecomony. it's the social structure that allowed the free market economy to flourish

Fourth; do you think for a second that Arab countries wouldn't invent WMD if they had the wherewithall to do so. No, there is no need if you can get checmical and biological weapons, and did you forget about OSIRAK

Fifth; yes, the West is far better than Arab culture and the social systems it produces.  Elsewise, why would they be emmigrating out of Arab countries and why would they be trying to get to the West to get educated.

Give it a rest Blitzie.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Syzygyone
Second,  WE?  WE?  Oh let me see, what caused us to start devleoping WMD.  Oh right, it was the Axis powers, Germany, Japan and Russia.  It wasn't we back them, now was it.  

Russia in the axis power ? or it was not an enumeration ? (if so Germany and Japan are not axis power ?)
I fail to see your logic.

[Wlfgng]

the big difference is that we (US) are reluctant to use the WMD's we have..
apparently not so with religious zealots like in the Muslem world.. they can't wait to use them. and suicide tactics, etc etc etc
talk about no regard for human life